how to layer or program like this

keyboardist06 · Post by **keyboardist06** » Tue Jan 01, 2013 5:49 pm

hi kronos user, i have a question, how do i layer or program a sounds like these http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B0ZXjb3r4_k

ed_f · Post by **ed_f** » Tue Jan 01, 2013 6:26 pm

Create combi with the piano and strings. Assign the pedal to the volume of the strings only.

SanderXpander · Post by **SanderXpander** » Tue Jan 01, 2013 6:30 pm

Or rather, tell the combi to NOT send the pedal to the piano.
In Global, set the pedal to "expression" (CC#11)

keyboardist06 · Post by **keyboardist06** » Tue Jan 01, 2013 6:48 pm

thank you,. how about the piano with hammond?

ed_f · Post by **ed_f** » Wed Jan 02, 2013 12:45 am

Same idea really - you can route CCs all around as you need them - or you could just use the first one as a template and just change the second timbre to be organ instead of strings.

The main difference here is you need to copy in the control surface information from your organ program to set up the sliders (or do it yourself manually) - and set your Control Surface Timbre to T02

rs.felicio · Post by **rs.felicio** » Wed Jan 02, 2013 1:05 am

If you don't use a pedal.......you can use the " karma scenes" to set 4 midi channels....on the same Combi you can use piano, strings, organ and lead. And set each scenes for your proposal...for example:
A - Piano + strings
B - Piano + organ
C - organ + lead
D - All
..... Is very, very usefull...

ed_f · Post by **ed_f** » Wed Jan 02, 2013 4:20 am

rs.felicio wrote:If you don't use a pedal.......you can use the " karma scenes" to set 4 midi channels....on the same Combi you can use piano, strings, organ and lead. And set each scenes for your proposal...for example:
A - Piano + strings
B - Piano + organ
C - organ + lead
D - All
..... Is very, very usefull...

But if you watched the video the point of the pedal is to bring the secondary sound in and out as needed.

ronnfigg · Post by **ronnfigg** » Wed Jan 02, 2013 5:38 am

Do what Sander said. It uses the "MIDI Filters" tab- and be sure you set the pedal in Global mode to "Expression" (CC# 11). I do this all the time. Works great!

apex · Post by **apex** » Wed Jan 02, 2013 6:03 am

does this type of use of expression still count against polyphony when you have the volume of the sound down? (just like using the fader?)

SanderXpander · Post by **SanderXpander** » Wed Jan 02, 2013 7:56 am

Of course.

rs.felicio · Post by **rs.felicio** » Wed Jan 02, 2013 9:39 am

Friend.

I just tried to remember that we can improve this process by Karma....because we don't need to create two combis (one for Piano + Strings and other for Piano + Organ) and if you don't have a expression pedal, can be use the Karma Scenes to bring (and out) the secondary sound.. for example:

A - Only Piano
B - Piano + Strings
C - Piano + Strings + Organ
D - Strings + Organ

ed_f wrote:
rs.felicio wrote:If you don't use a pedal.......you can use the " karma scenes" to set 4 midi channels....on the same Combi you can use piano, strings, organ and lead. And set each scenes for your proposal...for example:
A - Piano + strings
B - Piano + organ
C - organ + lead
D - All
..... Is very, very usefull...
But if you watched the video the point of the pedal is to bring the secondary sound in and out as needed.

SanderXpander · Post by **SanderXpander** » Wed Jan 02, 2013 9:56 am

You are right of course, but the point of the video was to make stuff fade in and fade out naturally with the expression pedal. Not to just have sounds switch on and off.