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please look at this youtube video and let me know what you think.

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In my personal experience, the Kronos 88 gets "uncalibrated" when you move it. Specially if the keybed gets orientated towards the floor.

Try this, I've solved such issues that way:
A fix for sticky keys and clunky B's and C's

Also, put the Kronos some time with the keybed orientated towards the roof.

hard to say by that utube. I would not guess.

He should have service view his utube

GregC wrote:hard to say by that utube. I would not guess.

He should have service view his utube

Who is service?....you mean korg?

apex wrote:

GregC wrote:hard to say by that utube. I would not guess.

He should have service view his utube

Who is service?....you mean korg?

yeah, an authorized Korg service center

Your F# key makes a very similar noise to the boing boing boing noise I have mentioned in numerous threads that my E key makes on my 88 Kronos X

I love the response from Marpabl lol. That says a LOT about the quality of the Kronos keybed.

A workstation with setlitsts etc designed for using on stage should be able to be transported without having to worry about which way up it is or without fear of things going out of alignment.

I have owned a lot of different synths over the years that while I always looked after them and avoided scratches etc, they often got roughly handled going to gigs in their flight cases etc and I've never ever ever had any problem with any keys at all, until I bought the Kronos and now my Kronos X (and these are in one position on a stand, never leaving the house)

I love the Kronos but the keyboard is the weak link in my opinion quality wise (although I really like the action)

This is very disappointing. I am considering a new Kronos X 88 in the next month, but all the negative publicity about the RH3 keybed and other issues of the Kronos and X are giving me a bad taste.

Are these keyboards really crap?

synthman. please don't let this deter you from making a Kronos purchase. the machines are great. Especially since you are getting the Kronos X. Believe me, you have nothing to worry about.

Cool. I have yet to actually play one, but from the videos I've seen of Jordan R and others playing them, it looks awesome! I own a Motif ES8, and way back when I bought it there were people complaining about the D notes going bad. I never ran into that issue. Thanks for the re-assurance.

Kronos X keyboard is a massive improvement over the original keyboard, all my keys are evenly spaced etc.

But one of my keys does make the same sound as the F# in that video and people are still having noisy fan problems with it.

As I've said elsewhere if the X was my first Kronos and I hadn't been through hell trying to get my first two original ones sorted, I wouldn't have hesitated to return it due to this problem.

I had zero fan problems on my original 88's, I am starting to have fan problems on the X version.

Craig in the RH3 sticky thread has just returned his X (which was his 3rd Kronos due to numerous problems) after the first time he used it on stage it died.

I suppose I'd describe the Kronos X RH3 as follows. Compared to the original Kronos, the Kronos X is superb. Compared to my Triton Extremes keyboard it's total cheap junk. In other words in my opinion the original Kronos has such a poorly made keybed, that anything is an improvement.

The note cuttoff problem doesn't seem to be there on any of the X versions which is a good thing.

If I had the room for two keyboards, after my problems with my first two kronos, I would have got a 61 Kronos and another brand 88 weighted keybed.

I cant stress enough that I'd still go for it, it is an absolutely superb sounding machine which is why most of us that have been through the return nightmare have stuck with it.

I'm just being honest based on what I've personally experienced and what others have reported. But if you get one and have no problems, you will be very very very very happy with it.

So all Kronos's (1st gen and X) could have fan issues, and only the 88/73 RH3 keybed models have the note issues correct? I mean I can always use my Motif as a controller to my Mac, and maybe the 61 key Kronos X for my synth. I would love to just replace the Motif but I'm back to being scared of the Kronos. Crap.

I haven't heard of anyone that's had a 73/88 X version with the note cut off issue.

My keyboard plays superbly, just has one really loud annoying key like the f# in the youtube clip at the start of this thread and a couple of other keys sometimes sound very cheap and clanky (not the weights clunking)

There's only one other youtube clip of an X version with a keyboard problem and that is also a noisy key rather than a playability problem.

So I think the risk is extremely low.

The fan problem seems to be the same, some people have it some don't.

The X that died on stage is a fluke, could happen with anyone and any make machine.

But I do think something is badly wrong with Korgs quality control on instruments that cost this much.

I'm very glad I made my purchase, I think the overall quality/build of the Kronos is superb. Its the cheap fan and the quality/design of the RH3 (it feels and plays great) or the way it's implemented into the Kronos case that in my opinion lets it down.

Too many people have had to undo screws and adjust after moving it etc.

I don't think I would be happy with my X for use in a live on stage environment, I know many others have had no problems, I simply don't trust moving it frfom A to B without something going wrong.

I totally disagree with those that imply as it's a complicated machine, we should expect things like RAM to come loose, if that was the case, Korg should have made it accessible without voiding the warrenty.

I have used numerous laptops etc and supported numerous others that have been chucked all over the world, on boats, helicopters or whatever and not once do I recall a properly seated in the first place RAM chip coming loose or snapping out of place.

And as I've said elsewhere, while the UPS suggestion makes sense if your power supply might be bad, (makes sense anyway really due to the possibility of power fluctuations) again I have used many PC's in many churches on power strips, old wiring etc and while we had one PC that occasionally hung, the one next to it in the same power strip and all the others I have used have never suddenly decided to reboot halfway through a church service (we used to use one for the words on the screen, another to record the service for internet broadcast etc). My point being, if it's not a problem for PC's being used on the same power circuit as the Knrons, a lack of UPS is for example no excuse for Craigs new Kronos X hanging up first time it was used in church. If all the other PC's in use at the same time in that church also failed/rebooted then yes a UPS would have solved the problem.

I still think you will be very very happy with it.

It's ONLY because it's such a good instrument I have stuck with it. But I have LOST A LOT of faith in Korg since my Kronos and no matter how much I want the new MS20, there's not a chance of me buying it before it's out and problem free for well over a year and by that, I mean if there is a known problem that materialises in the first year, I'm, not even going to consider it.

And as I've said many times before it's not so much because of the problems but due to the very very poor way Korg handled it and the way that people still having problems are often going weeks without their 3K + instruments.

Way more people are problem free than with trouble. The fan issues are mostly subjective (not everyone is bothered by the same level of noise). It's true that Kronos quality control has left a lot to be desired. But personally, having used mine (original 88 ) as my single gigging board for a year now, I can't imagine ever switching to a Motif, Roland or Kurz. Much of the stuff I do regularly isn't even possible on them. I had a mild case of the keybed issue that was fixed to my satisfaction (even though it took a while because I wanted an upgrade at the same time) and even had loose RAM once which crashed my Kronos on stage. It's still the most satisfying board I've ever owned.

But if you feel bad about it, get something else. As far as I'm concerned, that just culls the competition for me

SynthMan65 wrote:This is very disappointing. I am considering a new Kronos X 88 in the next month, but all the negative publicity about the RH3 keybed and other issues of the Kronos and X are giving me a bad taste.

Are these keyboards really crap?

All the negative publicity? Last time you went to the hospital, were you disappointed that most people there were sick?

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