Hallo mates.. is there anyway I can import and use the PCGs and Songs created in Triton Extreme onto KRONOS?
I am a new user from India, The Programs on my new Kronos are not so impressive as I found best tones on my old Extreme. If I can import the Extreme PCG and Songs, its great.. otherwise I have to think of selling this kronos
Transferring PCGs can't be done. Many threads exist on the subject. Search the forums.
You can export Extreme sequences as SMF, then load in the Kronos and adjust the timbres. It would be a bit of work but it beats re-sequencing.
"To me the synthesizer was always a source of new sounds that musicians could use to expand the range of possibilities for making music."
Bob Moog
Thinking to sell a kronos only because can't import PCGs from a triton extreme it's a joke in my opinion, no offence, but really can't believe that people buys a kronos just a preset player, without trying to basic program a sound.
@ metallo, Many thanks for your input. but I should tell you something that In India, the users of Triton series keyboards are plenty where as all other latest keyboards are still not familiar. I'm sure triton series will rule for the next 10 years even indian stages. If I cant import all my works and tones for the lives, there is no point in keeping KRONOs. Everything to be built from the beginning which is difficult.
If there are is any tool which I can use to convert the Songs files and voices, I will buy just buy it.
PCG Tools can be used to rearrange and analyze PCG files. However, a conversion between different models is something different.
Some of the reasons it is so difficult let alone impossible:
- different waveforms/sample sets
- different engine:
- different parameters
- different parameters/linearity.
- different effects
munavvar wrote:@ metallo, Many thanks for your input. but I should tell you something that In India, the users of Triton series keyboards are plenty where as all other latest keyboards are still not familiar. I'm sure triton series will rule for the next 10 years even indian stages. If I cant import all my works and tones for the lives, there is no point in keeping KRONOs. Everything to be built from the beginning which is difficult.
If there are is any tool which I can use to convert the Songs files and voices, I will buy just buy it.
Munavyar, I think that the reasons you are explaining don't justify the fact that you are getting a kronos to use merely as a patch player.
Even if you would be able to move all your pcgs from the triton to the kronos this will be useless, keep you triton, there is no point to upgrade to the kronos if you just want to have the same sounds without neither programming them, unless you are getting your kronos only because it's cool to tell to your riends that you have a kronos.
munavvar wrote:@ metallo, Many thanks for your input. but I should tell you something that In India, the users of Triton series keyboards are plenty where as all other latest keyboards are still not familiar. I'm sure triton series will rule for the next 10 years even indian stages. If I cant import all my works and tones for the lives, there is no point in keeping KRONOs. Everything to be built from the beginning which is difficult.
If there are is any tool which I can use to convert the Songs files and voices, I will buy just buy it.
Munavyar, I think that the reasons you are explaining don't justify the fact that you are getting a kronos to use merely as a patch player.
Even if you would be able to move all your pcgs from the triton to the kronos this will be useless, keep you triton, there is no point to upgrade to the kronos if you just want to have the same sounds without neither programming it, unless you are getting your kronos only because it's cool to tell to your riends that you have a kronos.
The first thing I do when I move to a new Korg or synth in general, is NOT to copy everything 1 to 1. I recreate the combis (to be used for songs in the rock cover band I play in).
And I deliberately using different sounds, most times better an in every case different. Because buying is THE way to discover all the new sounds.
munavvar wrote:@ metallo, Many thanks for your input. but I should tell you something that In India, the users of Triton series keyboards are plenty where as all other latest keyboards are still not familiar. I'm sure triton series will rule for the next 10 years even indian stages. If I cant import all my works and tones for the lives, there is no point in keeping KRONOs. Everything to be built from the beginning which is difficult.
If there are is any tool which I can use to convert the Songs files and voices, I will buy just buy it.
Munavyar, I think that the reasons you are explaining don't justify the fact that you are getting a kronos to use merely as a patch player.
Even if you would be able to move all your pcgs from the triton to the kronos this will be useless, keep you triton, there is no point to upgrade to the kronos if you just want to have the same sounds without neither programming it, unless you are getting your kronos only because it's cool to tell to your riends that you have a kronos.
The first thing I do when I move to a new Korg or synth in general, is NOT to copy everything 1 to 1. I recreate the combis (to be used for songs in the rock cover band I play in).
And I deliberately using different sounds, most times better an in every case different. Because buying is THE way to discover all the new sounds.
I used a trinity for ages, with all my sounds programmed by myself.
I moved to the new kronos and initially I was lost, then I decided to try and spent a whole weekend with my kronos and reprogrammed all the souds I needed, has been a fantastic experience, some sounds are different from the ones on the trinity but I like them, I refreshed them.....some sound identical and for some others I decided to use different oscillators/filters/effect and they sound great in the mix.
I can't really believe that people spends about 3 thousand euros and neither sits down and tries to understand how it works.
For songs you can go via SMF. A but of work but it should do the trick. For sounds you could probably get really close by mapping the parameters manually. HD1 has all the parameters of the Triton's HI2 engine. Just some samples are missing/different so you'll have to find good substitutes. Most of them should be there.
Unless you have/use the MOSS board this is all very doable.
This should work well if you have a couple of important sounds you want to copy. If you're talking hundreds it's probably too much work, but then I agree with the others; why did you get a Kronos if you want to keep all of the Triton's sounds? Just keep the Triton.
Thanx to all for your suggestions.
In SetList mode, after completing 127 setlists, how to create a new setlist?
In India, we the Live Musicians, must be ready with about thousands of songs with readily assigned tones. There won't be any rehearsals. On stage the singers would be asking for a new song.
naveenkeys- I believe you mean 127 "Slots" in a "SetList"? Since there are 127 Slots in a Set List I doubt you could ever use 127 Set Lists. The Operation Guide has the details on the section titled Set Lists. I don't feel like re-typing the OG, since Korg has already been nice enough to do that for us.
"To me the synthesizer was always a source of new sounds that musicians could use to expand the range of possibilities for making music."
Bob Moog
