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Big four, curiosity?

Posted: Wed Apr 03, 2013 1:40 am
by Bertotti
I obviously like all these boards and tones. Being new to keys in general and very new to a Kronos, the only board I have, I wonder what these others can do that the Kronos can't.

I keep digging and learning tone shaping I figure I should be able to get darn close to anything I hear here if it isn't already in there and I just haven't find it yet. Is that a fair assessment?



edit to add link! Doh I forgot to add it. earlier!

Big Four

Posted: Wed Apr 03, 2013 2:02 am
by jeebustrain
what other boards?

Posted: Wed Apr 03, 2013 2:26 am
by GregC
other cardboards ?

seems to belong in " General Synths/keys if you have the time

Posted: Wed Apr 03, 2013 2:28 am
by jeebustrain
this big 4?

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Posted: Wed Apr 03, 2013 2:56 am
by GregC
jeebustrain wrote:this big 4?

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same old dusty boards, year after year :lol:

Posted: Wed Apr 03, 2013 3:33 am
by JonSolo
I think he means Siel, Kawai, Ensoniq, and Crumer.

Posted: Wed Apr 03, 2013 3:52 am
by Bertotti
Ah heck I forgot to add the link. I will edit and add it above. Really then it would have made sense!

Posted: Wed Apr 03, 2013 3:53 am
by JPWC
The Kronos is like having all four in one. Yet sometimes it's just too much. When I get overwhelmed or bored with the Kronos, that's when I move over to Roland or Yamaha or Elektron or Teenage Engineering. :shock:

Each instrument sounds different, looks different, feels different and evokes different music.

To each their own, and my goal is to own as many as possible, yet still eat, pay the mortgage and not have the wife leave me.

Re: Big four, curiosity?

Posted: Wed Apr 03, 2013 12:37 pm
by Scott
JPWC got it pretty much right. Overall, the Kronos has the most capability, but each of the others has something unique to offer. Yamaha is known for some particularly nice acoustic sounds. Nord has a very "hands on" interface, and some unusual/rare vintage keyboard sounds in its sample library. Roland has behavioral modeling in some of their SuperNatural acoustic sounds that will do things like, for example, automatically alter the attack of a tone based on how close or far away a note is from the previous note you played, to better simulate how the acoustic instrument is generally played.

Posted: Wed Apr 03, 2013 1:22 pm
by JPWC
I am with you Scott.

While I'll use the Kronos for just about everything, I'll add in the Yamaha Motif for guitar sounds, (not only acoustic, but electric--distorted guitar are nice and warm on the motif, not piercing and overly excited like korg or roland stuff) and I play the Roland JP80 for Brass (the behavorial modeling is excellent) and synth sounds. When Kronos is busy doing other things I'll use the Krome for piano.

And when I start losing inspiration I switch over to groove boxes, good for a change in pace.

Posted: Wed Apr 03, 2013 2:47 pm
by michelkeijzers
JPWC wrote:I am with you Scott.

While I'll use the Kronos for just about everything, I'll add in the Yamaha Motif for guitar sounds, (not only acoustic, but electric--distorted guitar are nice and warm on the motif, not piercing and overly excited like korg or roland stuff) and I play the Roland JP80 for Brass (the behavorial modeling is excellent) and synth sounds. When Kronos is busy doing other things I'll use the Krome for piano.

And when I start losing inspiration I switch over to groove boxes, good for a change in pace.
Impressive setup, btw, small typo in your signature: Kronos-6.

Posted: Wed Apr 03, 2013 8:25 pm
by Bertotti
Thanks guys, I gues I was just uneasy about picking Kronos as my first board. So far I haven't found a sound I didnt like. But with things as they are a bit of buyers remorse kicked in.

On an aside I didn't want to like any of the libraries they have demos of but sadly, I really do! Karma on the other hand is very interesting and so far very confusing so I am just leaving it alone untill I understand the Kronos itself better.

Posted: Thu Apr 04, 2013 8:06 pm
by cynkh
Well, the beauty of the KARMA implementation is that you can just leave it alone if you want. Or, you can copy a program/combi to an initialized slot and edit the KARMA slots (or just not save them) and just move sliders, press buttons and twist knobs! I've found the most fun in playing with KARMA in animated pads and motion sequences- a lot of subtle nuances are possible.

As far as validating your purchase decision, I agree the Kronos can get overwhelming at times and it rarely ever gets boring (my ears and eyes usually ache before I'm "bored" with it). It's a great platform to springboard from, though, so I highly recommend starting with any of the preset programs or combi's and tweaking away- it's amazing what you can come up with in just a short amount of time in any of the engines. You'll be authoring soundsets like a pro in no time! :wink:

Cheers!
Bertotti wrote:Thanks guys, I gues I was just uneasy about picking Kronos as my first board. So far I haven't found a sound I didnt like. But with things as they are a bit of buyers remorse kicked in.

On an aside I didn't want to like any of the libraries they have demos of but sadly, I really do! Karma on the other hand is very interesting and so far very confusing so I am just leaving it alone untill I understand the Kronos itself better.

Posted: Fri Apr 05, 2013 11:57 am
by lotty1
If I was on a desert island I and I could only choose three things to take with me.
1) Solar panel
2) My Glasses
3) Kronos
The main thing would be the kronos I would need my glasses to see it and the solar panel to power it. :D

Posted: Fri Apr 05, 2013 12:58 pm
by geoelectro
lotty1 wrote:If I was on a desert island I and I could only choose three things to take with me.
1) Solar panel
2) My Glasses
3) Kronos
The main thing would be the kronos I would need my glasses to see it and the solar panel to power it. :D
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Geo