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Pads
Posted: Sun Apr 14, 2013 10:24 pm
by geoelectro
I am using the pads with the Korg USB pad. However, I was wanting to assign a pad to a certain key on the keyboard in one of my combinations. I have it set where a sound is on the left side of the keyboard and another on the right. There are several keys available between these two sounds. I thought I could assign a pad or 2 to those unused keys. According the the OP, Page 35, I have to do this in Global. It works but that messes up other combi's since the global stays the same.
Is it possible to assign pads to certain keys other than the above method so they would be saved for specific combi's?
Geo
Posted: Sun Apr 14, 2013 10:37 pm
by Stipes Vigilo
Are the USB pads a NanoPad or PadKontrol?
Posted: Sun Apr 14, 2013 11:02 pm
by geoelectro
NanoPad. Version 2 I guess.
Geo
Posted: Mon Apr 15, 2013 2:41 am
by JonSolo
I use a Nanopad2 to trigger sounds and samples. Within the Combi you can go to the EQ Vector/Control tab and then choose Pads.
To really make it easy, I assign my sounds and samples to other MIDI channels so that I always have my full keyboard. When I do my chord assign, I choose the pad I want to trigger it. Then I choose on the screen which note/s get triggered.
Posted: Mon Apr 15, 2013 2:58 am
by geoelectro
Yes, the nano pad works perfectly. However, I wanted to assign pads to certain keys, and have it saved per combi. I don't know if its possible.
Geo
Posted: Mon Apr 15, 2013 2:08 pm
by JonSolo
That is kinda what I was saying. You can choose which notes (either just one, or up to 8 I think) get triggered when your pad gets hit. This gets saved on a PER COMBI basis.
Every Combi has a different set of notes triggered as a preset.
Using the method I described I have C4 (a sample) played from Pad 1 on Midi channel 2...the sound is on "track" 2 of the combi and is set for Midi channel 2 as well. Pad 2 plays C4 (another sample) from track 3. And pads 3-6 trigger still yet another sound, but this time chords that are played from Midi channel 4 (track 4) while I am soloing using the whole keyboard on channel 1.
And that is just one of my Combi's.
It sounds like that is what you are asking to do. My first post explains it. You have to choose PADS within the Combi (which is found by going to the EQ Vector/Control) then you can set up which pad triggers which keys, up to 8 keys triggered per pad). The 8 "rows" that appear under Pads, correspond to the top 8 pads on your Nano.
I have not had to explore past this to get to the second set yet.
Is this what you meant? If not please clarify.
Posted: Mon Apr 15, 2013 9:38 pm
by geoelectro
I have it down triggering with the Nanopad. I can create the pads etc. My question has more to do with triggering the pads from the keyboard, rather than the Nanopad. If I have a couple of keys that I'm not playing in a given combi, I was wanting to assign them to trigger pads.
It seems I can do it going by the OP using the Global function. That doesn't work because Global stays the same so on different combi's those assigned keys still trigger pads.
I would like to;
1) assign pads to keys in combi mode,
2) Be able to have this assignment saved with each combi.
Make sense?
Geo

Posted: Tue Apr 16, 2013 1:37 am
by JonSolo
You have me lost. Assigning pads to keys? The Nano makes no sound at all.
Maybe I think I get you. Are you wanting to assign CHORDS to a single key?
Then using the term pad is not accurate.
Posted: Tue Apr 16, 2013 1:34 pm
by geoelectro
Yes, chords to keys. Pads is correct in that there are 8 pads that up to 8 notes can be assigned to each. You can play the pads on the screen, or with the Nanopad, or trigger the pads with keys.
So, I want to trigger the pads (chords) with keys and be able to select the keys and have that saved per combi.
Geo
Posted: Tue Apr 16, 2013 2:05 pm
by HardSync
Assign the pads to keys that are well outside the physical keyboard's range and you shouldn't have a problem. MIDI note numbers 120-127 (C9-G9) are likely not in use by any of your combis, or you could try using note numbers 0-11 (C-1 to B-1) -- you don't have to use the actual keys on the keybed. Middle C is MIDI note number 60. Simple maths from there...
[edit: fixed note numbers, added key names for clarity]
Posted: Tue Apr 16, 2013 3:25 pm
by geoelectro
OK. One more shot at this,
I have a split on a 61 note keyboard. There are some keys in between the split I'm not using. I wanted to assign pads (chords) to those keys.
I can do this according to the OP page 35 using Global pad assign. However, that is permanent to all combi's. I was wanting to assign chords to keys and be able to save that setup per combi. Make sense?
Geo
Posted: Tue Apr 16, 2013 3:35 pm
by HardSync
Of course it makes sense what you want to do, but it isn't possible on a per combi basis. The suggestion I gave to you above will work for all of your combis though, particularly because you're using a NanoPAD, and you only need a little editing in Global Mode to do it, and maybe a bit of the zones in a combi. Think about it a little bit. You are trying to force a solution to work in a way that it cannot and was not designed to work that way. Instead, try understanding how you can make it work another way to achieve the same or better results.
Posted: Tue Apr 16, 2013 4:27 pm
by geoelectro
Ok. that is the answer. Can't be done. Thanks.
I had this particular song where I was going to use some unused keys to trigger a soft pad sound that required a rather quick action. I can do it with the pad, but it would have been sooo much easier if it could have been done on the keyboard.
I did it by using the Global assign and it worked great, but as I said, that makes it wok on all combis which is not cool!
Many thanks guys! I'll add it to my wish list.
Geo
Posted: Tue Apr 16, 2013 4:46 pm
by HardSync
Ah, sorry, I thought you were still willing to use the Nanopad to trigger the pads.
If you have absolutely have to play that pad sound from the keyboard, there's another option you might consider trying.
Sample the chords and make a program out of it, ensuring that you assign the chord samples (which would be what you would have programmed on the pads) to what will be the unused keys in your combi. Then just add the program to your combi. This is a lot more work, obviously, but certainly doable.
Posted: Tue Apr 16, 2013 5:56 pm
by geoelectro
HardSync wrote:Ah, sorry, I thought you were still willing to use the Nanopad to trigger the pads.
If you have absolutely have to play that pad sound from the keyboard, there's another option you might consider trying.
Sample the chords and make a program out of it, ensuring that you assign the chord samples (which would be what you would have programmed on the pads) to what will be the unused keys in your combi. Then just add the program to your combi. This is a lot more work, obviously, but certainly doable.
Perfect! I can do that. Thanks HardSync!
Geo