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Hi All

I have a 61 Key Kronos, stock. I was wondering about adding some string libraries if possible

I was wondering what might be some great, natural sounding string libraries. where you buy them, how they are loaded, do i need another HD?

thanks alot

Begin here Kronos free downloads

If you really need something else, then check here: Kronos Sound Libraries

I don't think you'll need more space on the internal SSD. Insted, you'll likely need more RAM for simultaneously loading the additional libraries. Search the forum for upgrading the RAM and the SSD, or go to your Service Center to have done it.

hey

thanks for that!

Just be aware that the EXs ones on the Korg website shop are tied to your particular Kronos and cannot be sold to anyone else or transferred to a new Kronos should you decide to say get an 88 version at a later date.

I've just kindly been given a load of sounds by someone who no longer owns their Kronos, and one was an EXs file.

But I cant use it, only in demo mode

Although out of principle, if I ever get the time I might simply make my own sample library by sampling the demo mode (sounds I tried were single velocity and looped way before the demo sound cut out, so should be fairly simple if time consuming) and recreate the library that way.

I've nothing against companies protecting their stuff, using things like Ilok etc, but producing things that cant be sold, given or transferred, is morally wrong in my opinion

Ojustaboo wrote:is morally wrong in my opinion

Of course is morally wrong, you can not have those Sounds later on again
on another Kronos and if you sell your Kronos most of the buyers would
not pay for the Libraries you already payed. Basically you are screwed,
most of the things about Korg are morally wrong.

Ojustaboo wrote:
I've nothing against companies protecting their stuff, using things like Ilok etc, but producing things that cant be sold, given or transferred, is morally wrong in my opinion

That's the way all software licenses operate.

It's called copyright

Even iTunes lets you copy a song to 5 computers, and after that, say if one of your computer fries, then you can just deauthorize it, and put it on a new one. So, I guess we just need to look at sounds libraries as something we 'Lease' rather than 'Own'. But come on.... For example, I have been without my kronos for awhile. It is in the shop. I SHOULD be able to borrow or rent one, and use the sound libraries so that I can still gig! I am a songwriter, and I believe copyrights have their place, but this is OVERKILL in my opinion.

Maybe they could advertise 2 prices. One cheaper price for just one board, and a higher price for unlimited copies, providing they are used for your personal use.... Just a thought.

The OP might try these. They're free.

http://thekronosblog.blogspot.com/2012/ ... rings.html

Busch.

GregC wrote:

Ojustaboo wrote:
I've nothing against companies protecting their stuff, using things like Ilok etc, but producing things that cant be sold, given or transferred, is morally wrong in my opinion

That's the way all software licenses operate.

It's called copyright

Nope, I can sell my Native Instruments to anyone I wish, same with Cubase, same with MS office.

Adobe lets say CS4 suite be sold or transferred up to 4 times, that is the most limited I've ever come across until korg.

The only times I've seen where this isn't the case is with educational versions and obviously you can't sell an old version when you've used that version to get a cheap upgrade to the current version.

Thinking about it, you can't sell individual Steam Games, but you can go onto ANYONES PC and log into your Steam account and play your games. However you can if you want also sell your entire steam account to someone else.

Some games such as some MMO's say you can't sell them in their license but the reality is people still do, but this is slightly different in that its not the software that can't be sold (and is often free) but the account access to their servers.

Regardless of how many lawyers software companies use, some of their license conditions are dubious to say the least (especially where Europe is concerned).

The European court has already ruled that digital content games can be sold by the end user regardless of what the software companies put in their eula and in Gemany, their consumer organisation had filed a complaint against Steam as people can't currently do this.

http://gamepolitics.com/2013/01/31/germ ... bLcOsu9KSN

The way korg doesnt even let the owner transfer to a new Kronos mskes their software license 1000 times worse than any of the above.

Korg might as well go the whole way and tell us that the Kronos OS is licensed to us hence we can't sell our Kronos.

Car anologies are always bad but I'm using one anyway

I never buy brand new cars, I just bought a 2003 Renault Laguna for £1300 and I am the fith owner. Renault makes zero exta money when someone sells their car to someone else. Just like if I sell my washing machine, my TV or whatever.

I can buy privately, or I can buy from a second hand car dealer (or a washing machine etc from a second hand store) and in both cases the original manafacture receives nothing.

It's only software companies that think its their God given right to sell something once and never allow it to be sold again and cry about themselves not getting any money from second hand sales.

If korg acted sensibly, they could charge say $10 dollars for the transfer of their sounds.

I think quite a few software licenses have a "nontransferable" clause. Any Windows OEM version is also linked to the mobo upon initial activation, which is why it's cheaper. Sonar can't be sold or transferred. However, your license is personal rather than bound to the machine - if you get a new pc, you're free to install it again.
Machine locked licenses only make sense to me for OSs, and then only barely. It's a shame Korg feels the need for this restriction, as well as the high price. Certainly it's preventing me from getting any expansions.

GregC wrote:

Ojustaboo wrote:
I've nothing against companies protecting their stuff, using things like Ilok etc, but producing things that cant be sold, given or transferred, is morally wrong in my opinion

That's the way all software licenses operate.

It's called copyright

Bullshit. A a musician I sell CDs under copyright but no law prevents the buyer to put it on ebay. And that's precisely what Korg is doing, without any legal backup.

I'm just curious but has anyone actualy tried contacting Korg support to get the process to move from say a 61 key to a new 88 that you want to trade the 61 in for? I read all these threads but I don't remember anyone a thallus talking to Korg to see what is or isn't possible. Maybe I just missed that thread? Just curious.

I think I might email Korg support and just ask them what is or isn't possible.

Good point. I do recall someone with this issue but I'm not sure who it was or if/how it got resolved.

I also have to add that I don't think it can be "morally wrong" for any company to sell something for a high price, or under restrictive conditions, unless it were some essential product for living, such as clean air or water. We're talking a software expansion for a luxury product here, if you don't like the conditions, don't buy it.

The car analogy is bad. You can't sell a copy of a car ( unless you want to try and build one).But you can sell almost unlimited copies of software without copyright protection. But Korg should figure out how to transfer licenses.

Agreed, morally wrong, not so much but greedy yes.

I sent a support request to Korg to ask. Here is what I sent. With a 500 character limit I hope it is clear. I would think that with a barrage of these same questions coming I to their support staff something would be resolved, at least a definitive answer.

"I have a few questions.
1)if my kronos dies I could lose the Exs and have to re purchase it.
2)if say I want to sell or trade my kronos-61 for another model say a Kronos-88 there is no way to remove it from the 61 and get a new authorization from you do the 88.
3) not as important to me because the odds of me having two Kronos, as much as I would love that, are slim, is that if I did buy a second Kronos I would have to repurchase the Exs. I have never seen reference that anyone has actually asked Korg. I find it hard to believe that Korg wouldn't have a process in place for at least situations 1 and 2 above.

Would you please clear this up for me? Thanks Bertotti"