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Is this really how I need to use the Touch Screen?

Posted: Thu Aug 01, 2013 5:02 pm
by Beemer
On The King Korg channel I viewed this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9-2AqdqPYI4

He says that its necessary because the PA products do not use capacitive touch screens.

Is this really how I will need to use the PA3x Touch Screen when I get it?

Ian

Posted: Thu Aug 01, 2013 6:27 pm
by korgpa2xmaster
Hello,

actually TheKingKorg is me :)

I might have been a little bit harsh on that comment, probably a bad day, but yes, my 20$ android has better touch :)

Touch on every Pa is resistive, not capacitive and you must apply some pressure on it. Since i use it live a lot i cant take chances and touch it too gentle with finger tips cause it simply doesnt respond every time. I actually use nails and i hit pretty hard, but i owned pa1x, pa2x and now pa3x and never had a problem using it that way. I also work for Korg distributor in 7 countries and never heard that anyone damaged touch by pressing hard. These things are really well built.

Of course, you should wait for other opinions, but comparing it to Kronos display or even new Pa600 display Pa3x needs some pressure.

Posted: Thu Aug 01, 2013 6:51 pm
by Beemer
Thanks for your further comment which I accept.

Interestingly I have one of the new Blackberry Q5 phones which has a capacitive screen. While is is sensitive for point touching and two finger scaling I find it a pain when using one finger to move sliders and doing page swipes. On mine it can require two or three tries before the action occurs.

Maybe in future screens will use eye retina technology to make on screen selections :)

Ian

Posted: Fri Aug 02, 2013 1:04 am
by karmathanever
The touch screens have varied even since the Korg i30 days.
On my i30 I could just touch (finger pad) and it would respond.
On my PA1Xpro, I resorted to using the back of my finger (nail) as that screen was less responsive and I hate pressing hard.
Same on PA2XPro
PA3X is a little better but I believe is just right. Some owners use a stylus but that is just something else to "hold" - I need all the fingers I can get just to play!!!
I am now totally in the habit of the "nail" technique and there is no pressure required.

Cheers

Pete :D

Posted: Fri Aug 02, 2013 4:18 am
by Reuben
Fully agree with Pete. Just turn your hand over and touch lightly with your finger nail - works every time and you get used to it very quickly.

Posted: Fri Aug 02, 2013 10:50 am
by Sharp
Touch on every Pa is resistive, not capacitive and you must apply some pressure on it.
Yeah, but your hammering the freaking life out of the screen.
This video servers as nothing but a WARNING of how to NOT operate the Pa3X.

Resistive Touch Panels are a sandwich of layers that when pressed together they make contact. What you are doing will most certainly damage the layers ability to stay separate when needed and function when contacted is made.

You WILL break your Pa3X.

Regards
Sharp

Posted: Fri Aug 02, 2013 11:39 am
by korgpa2xmaster
Sharp, i assure you that nothing is going to happen to touch by using it this way, a am very familiar with Korg's construction, i am an engineer i even made my own workstation keyboard and i work for Korg in Yugoslavia almost 10 years, so it's not that i encourage people to hit their panels, but sometimes people think their instruments are made out of a paper...

One thing i know from experience is that you should take care how you press buttons on Korg keyboards because they tend to break.

Posted: Fri Aug 02, 2013 12:00 pm
by jimlefreak
Probably the camera's mic enhances the effect with its compression...without saying that watcing this .... (jimle)FREAKED me out a bit!!!! 8-[

Posted: Fri Aug 02, 2013 1:12 pm
by Thoraldus
There's nothing wrong with using your fingernail to tap on a KORG touch screen.

BUT NOT THAT FREAKIN HARD!!! :wacky:

I've seen Rich or Steve use the fingernail technique in a demo or two.

Posted: Fri Aug 02, 2013 7:59 pm
by korgpa2xmaster
Now that i watch video again yes it could be the camera mic and compression since i worked today with my Pa3 and noticed that i dont get that loud sounds :)

How ever, for ten years in regional distibution service i never saw display touch malfunction unless something fell directly and broke screen.

Actually i tried today to hit a bit harder touch and my nail hurts, so i just think it's video, it just sounds worse then it is :D