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Ideas for live playing - video
Posted: Sun Jan 05, 2014 2:47 pm
by Umut Erhan
I made a video exploring some ideas I use on stage =)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=58hK-3Dh3ws
Posted: Mon Jan 06, 2014 1:44 am
by karmathanever
Posted: Mon Jan 06, 2014 1:58 am
by keymaster
Great work; thanks!

Posted: Mon Jan 06, 2014 4:26 am
by rmvieira
Great post! Reminds me of all 99.9% of the Kronos that I'm not using that could be very useful.

Posted: Mon Jan 06, 2014 2:25 pm
by amosdef
Thanks for the great video. It's nice to see other keyboard players doing everything possible to avoid backing tracks/loops while playing live. It's inspiring me to dig deeper into my existing song combis and try to get some more detail into them
Posted: Mon Jan 06, 2014 2:43 pm
by SanderXpander
I like the side chaining and limiter cutting! Very nice ideas. I use the pads a lot for dance-y songs that require wide voicings and filter/pitch manipulations.
Pretty sure the fourth chord in Domino supposed to be a D7sus4 btw (or Bb7sus4 in your key) :p
Posted: Mon Jan 06, 2014 5:27 pm
by jeremykeys
Very cool! Thanks a bunch. Like some of the others said before me, it makes me realize just what I should be doing. The Kronos is just so very powerful and expressive and I'm not using even a 10th of it;s potential.
Posted: Mon Jan 06, 2014 7:06 pm
by LZ
Cool stuff. When you play with a drummer and have step LFO that needs to be tempo matched, are you using a click? Tap-tempo?
I have one song where I have some arppegiator parts and use tap tempo. But that requires having a hand free to hit the button. Just curious any tips for handling that. There are some parts that I'd love to have some percussion loops, but I've left them out since we aren't set up for a click track and I wouldn't have a hand free to hit tap tempo if it started to drift.
Posted: Mon Jan 06, 2014 7:29 pm
by X-Trade
I really like that first sound.
Techniques are interesting too.
One thing I tend to do is using the ribbon for filter gating. It's hard to press down and sweep gradually but it's great for rhythmic triggering of a variable parameter position. I guess it could also be set up as a switch to trigger the envelope in some engines.
Posted: Tue Jan 07, 2014 4:13 am
by Bertotti
Very cool thanks, one question though. I see the term side chaining but really don't understand what it is. How is side chaining your limited any different then just running it through the limited? Curious thanks!
Posted: Tue Jan 07, 2014 6:23 am
by shaneblyth
Bertotti wrote:Very cool thanks, one question though. I see the term side chaining but really don't understand what it is. How is side chaining your limited any different then just running it through the limited? Curious thanks!
its a specific effect compressor. Used bait on some trance synth type sounds to get that reverse pumping sound you could do the same by manually using the volume control there are many other uses
Posted: Tue Jan 07, 2014 9:08 am
by SanderXpander
A compressor reduces the dynamic range of a sound. It does this by reducing the level of the material going in. Usually, this is triggered by peaks in the material itself - they trigger the compressor to push down. Result; a "flatter" wave. Side chaining in this case means the compressor "listens" to another source (the side chained one) to decide when to push down on the to-be-processed material.
There are many uses for this. A very extreme sounding and common use in dance music is using for instance a kick drum as a side chain source for a compressor on a synth pad sound. Based on the above, that means the compressor starts pushing down on the pad sound when the kick drum hits. If set extreme enough, it reduces the pad to (near) zero. After the kick hit, the compressor enters its release stage (similar to a synth envelope!) which is an adjustable time during which the compressor slowly lets up (meaning the volume will slowly rise back) until no pushing down is happening at all anymore. What you'll be hearing is kind of a sucking or pumping effect. Playing with the release time lets you place it correctly in time with the music.
The actual kick drum used as side chain doesn't have to be audible via speakers/headphones/outputs by the way, as long as you send it to the compressor so it can listen to it. It won't pass it on.
As Shane said, you can achieve a similar effect by volume adjustments, because that's mostly what's happening. I use my expression pedal a lot for that purpose during dance songs.
Posted: Tue Jan 07, 2014 1:10 pm
by Bertotti
Hey thanks guys I didn't know that is how side chaining works, sounds very useful!
Re: Ideas for live playing - video
Posted: Tue Jan 07, 2014 1:20 pm
by QuiRobinez
slimhan wrote:I made a video exploring some ideas I use on stage =)
great video, very inspiring to see how you do these tricks live !
Bertotti wrote:Hey thanks guys I didn't know that is how side chaining works, sounds very useful!
if you want to know more you could watch tutorial 5 on my YouTube channel which explains sidechaining and compression on the kronos.
Posted: Tue Jan 07, 2014 1:38 pm
by Bertotti
I will watch for sure thanks! I have been watching the Karma ones!