Korg Gadget for iPad
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Kevin Nolan
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I bought Gadget and - I'm sorry I did. I think its awful. The synths are junk - and the whole feel of the App is not good, not good at all. A waste of 26 Euro!
By comparison, though I find it hard to integrate iPad synths into my music work flow (though use the iPad for a plethora of other fantastic music purposes) I still find iMS20 and iPolySix to be exquisite. Gadget is not in the same league - it is a toy. Yuck - just wasted money!
By comparison, though I find it hard to integrate iPad synths into my music work flow (though use the iPad for a plethora of other fantastic music purposes) I still find iMS20 and iPolySix to be exquisite. Gadget is not in the same league - it is a toy. Yuck - just wasted money!
I love gadget a lot. It sounds excellent indeed . Yours is one of the first complaints of this nature I have heard and I have read from literally 100's and 100's of comments on this app. It does go to show though you can not please everybody as your comment shows.
I have even seen some who prefer many of the sounds to some of korgs more advanced hardware synths such as kronos. I find that hard to swallow but would hardly call it a toy either lol.
I have even seen some who prefer many of the sounds to some of korgs more advanced hardware synths such as kronos. I find that hard to swallow but would hardly call it a toy either lol.
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Each synth engine is far too minimal and ad-hoc in what it offers, so each one is rediculously limiting (and when working you can only work on one at a time so the limitation feels real). So I find the featured on offer kind of ad-hoc. Having 15 little synths is fiddly, annoying actually. To be honest, and I know this may sound a bit odd, I find the whole thing patronizing. As if Korg are offering our little 'bite size' offering to the minions.
The sequencer is also awful.
I just feel it devalues what synthesis and sequencing is about, while the likes of the iPolySix shows exquisitely the true value and worth of the iPad in providing exquisite music creative tools. Meanwhile, with the iMS20 you have an stunning VA synth and drum machine and a GUI with the capability to be able to simultaneously perform on two KAOSS pads, manipulate synth controls and even repatch the modular aspect to it, live and in realtime without even having to move your hand position.
Fully accept that ts horses for courses and that this may be a big hit; but I genuinely find it to be dreadful. I have a lot of iPad music apps and for me this has been a complete waste of quite a lot of money. There are FAR better options available for a quarter of the money; or less. Its just patronizing and annoying (that I wasted the bloody money because its taking up space and I'm going to delete it !)
I also find it difficult to believe your comment and feel your exaggerating - hundreds of comments already after a few days - where are those comments?
The sequencer is also awful.
I just feel it devalues what synthesis and sequencing is about, while the likes of the iPolySix shows exquisitely the true value and worth of the iPad in providing exquisite music creative tools. Meanwhile, with the iMS20 you have an stunning VA synth and drum machine and a GUI with the capability to be able to simultaneously perform on two KAOSS pads, manipulate synth controls and even repatch the modular aspect to it, live and in realtime without even having to move your hand position.
Fully accept that ts horses for courses and that this may be a big hit; but I genuinely find it to be dreadful. I have a lot of iPad music apps and for me this has been a complete waste of quite a lot of money. There are FAR better options available for a quarter of the money; or less. Its just patronizing and annoying (that I wasted the bloody money because its taking up space and I'm going to delete it !)
I also find it difficult to believe your comment and feel your exaggerating - hundreds of comments already after a few days - where are those comments?
Well on the App Store the ratings are:
5 stars 40 people
4 stars 3 people
3 stars 1 person
2 stars 1 person
1 stars 1 person.
So you are not alone but definitely in the minority.
I must admit I really like it, the ability to automate everything is fantastic.
I'm not sure what you are expecting from 20 quid!
5 stars 40 people
4 stars 3 people
3 stars 1 person
2 stars 1 person
1 stars 1 person.
So you are not alone but definitely in the minority.
I must admit I really like it, the ability to automate everything is fantastic.
I'm not sure what you are expecting from 20 quid!
Sorry, Kevin, but I can't follow your judgement here.
First of all, many presets do not sound awful at all to me, but are nice typical genre examples.
And while I don't know hundreds, feedback from other Gadget users I know is 90% positie as well.
What else than separate synths plus some basic pattern sequencing did you expect, by the way?
First of all, many presets do not sound awful at all to me, but are nice typical genre examples.
And while I don't know hundreds, feedback from other Gadget users I know is 90% positie as well.
What else than separate synths plus some basic pattern sequencing did you expect, by the way?
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Kevin, you are most certainly entitled to an opinion - there have been plenty of apps that I wasn't crazy about - Yamaha's Tenori-e and Waldorf's Nave, to name two, and to be honest although I like the ims20, I find certain things like the drum seq not up to par with what I like.
But I have to disagree with the Korg Gadget being a toy - sure it has a number of limitations at the moment but I find it very far from being a toy - you can do a whole lot with it.
As for the sequencer, I would definitely not call it awful, although it is limited - you can't quite undo things, its a bit fiddly to zoom in and out, etc. But at the same time I find it VERY easy to input notes, much more so than other apps, like BeatMaker2, for instance.
Finally, I can see where you're coming from with the synths being limited. But I also think this is the way the app is intended to work - so you can concentrate more on the production (live or programmed) of the song/groove you're working on. In some ways this app reminds me of a much more advanced Kaossilator or Electribe, and I think that's a good thing. And if you consider that, the kaoss and tribe (hard and soft versions) are even more limiting - but look at how far ppl stretched them!
But I have to disagree with the Korg Gadget being a toy - sure it has a number of limitations at the moment but I find it very far from being a toy - you can do a whole lot with it.
As for the sequencer, I would definitely not call it awful, although it is limited - you can't quite undo things, its a bit fiddly to zoom in and out, etc. But at the same time I find it VERY easy to input notes, much more so than other apps, like BeatMaker2, for instance.
Finally, I can see where you're coming from with the synths being limited. But I also think this is the way the app is intended to work - so you can concentrate more on the production (live or programmed) of the song/groove you're working on. In some ways this app reminds me of a much more advanced Kaossilator or Electribe, and I think that's a good thing. And if you consider that, the kaoss and tribe (hard and soft versions) are even more limiting - but look at how far ppl stretched them!
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I've had a few days to play with the Gadget now so here's my take on it. It's a nice toy. It sounds ok and is fun to play with.
The synths are pretty simple and easy to use. They are called gadgets because that's exactly what they are. They are just little gadgets and not full featured synths. It's like a software collection of Volka's, Monotribes and Monotrons.
I think I'm going to have a lot of fun playing around with this. But I don't think I'll be integrating it into my work like I have with the Animoog, iMS20 and other apps in the same class. It does have the potential to evolve into something more but I not sure that's part of Korg's plan.
This can be a great educational tool too. It provides exposure to a lot of different synth technologies at a low cost and all in one portable box.
Its a good strategy on Korg's part. If you are introduced to synths via the Gadget and the Korg name you might have brand locality and get a Kronos some day.
The synths are pretty simple and easy to use. They are called gadgets because that's exactly what they are. They are just little gadgets and not full featured synths. It's like a software collection of Volka's, Monotribes and Monotrons.
I think I'm going to have a lot of fun playing around with this. But I don't think I'll be integrating it into my work like I have with the Animoog, iMS20 and other apps in the same class. It does have the potential to evolve into something more but I not sure that's part of Korg's plan.
This can be a great educational tool too. It provides exposure to a lot of different synth technologies at a low cost and all in one portable box.
Its a good strategy on Korg's part. If you are introduced to synths via the Gadget and the Korg name you might have brand locality and get a Kronos some day.
Go to the audiobus forum alone and you will find that the comments in that forum alone have already passed the 400 mark. Now do a web search for korg gadget and you will find many more comments.Kevin Nolan wrote:
I also find it difficult to believe your comment and feel your exaggerating - hundreds of comments already after a few days - where are those comments?
You see, it is not so difficult if you look at all. I guess I was NOT exaggerating now that YOU look at it.
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Fair point !!csteen wrote:Go to the audiobus forum alone and you will find that the comments in that forum alone have already passed the 400 mark. Now do a web search for korg gadget and you will find many more comments.Kevin Nolan wrote:
I also find it difficult to believe your comment and feel your exaggerating - hundreds of comments already after a few days - where are those comments?
You see, it is not so difficult if you look at all. I guess I was NOT exaggerating now that YOU look at it.
My sincere apologies for questioning your integrity; I was plain wrong in that.
And - it accept I'm probably getting too old (in my 40's!) - I'm sure this will be a big hit. I wouldn't have said a thing if it had cost just a few Euro - it's just irking me a bit that I paid out 26 Euro and personally dislike it (but I'll get over it - and probably report back in 3 months that I love it !! (at the moment I don't)
)Enjoy !!
Much respect for you Kevin. I hope you do like it more as this app evolves.
There are many uses I should point out you might try. Load up 5 or 6 instances of the various drum modules to create wicked drum tracks to export to your favorite daw.
You can make drum and bass lines in the same way for export to use with say animoog or thor. Audiobus is coming in an update which will make this much more useful..
There are many uses I should point out you might try. Load up 5 or 6 instances of the various drum modules to create wicked drum tracks to export to your favorite daw.
You can make drum and bass lines in the same way for export to use with say animoog or thor. Audiobus is coming in an update which will make this much more useful..
I never understood all the fuzz about these ipad apps...
Get a windows 8.1 12" tablet with ableton live and NI komplete and you have mobile performance at your hands..
Ipad works good for music reader or an external edditor like for the roland BK9...
But in this fashion, the ipad is nothing but a toy.
Get a windows 8.1 12" tablet with ableton live and NI komplete and you have mobile performance at your hands..
Ipad works good for music reader or an external edditor like for the roland BK9...
But in this fashion, the ipad is nothing but a toy.
Toys do not make the kind of quality music that many ipad apps do in fact make. By your standard a piano is a toy so I missed the point.
Making light of what others do is musically will not make yours any better.
To say it is not something you prefer is one thing but being rude is not the same thing at all.
Making light of what others do is musically will not make yours any better.
To say it is not something you prefer is one thing but being rude is not the same thing at all.