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Posted: Wed Jul 02, 2014 10:04 am
by Timo
Bald Eagle wrote:The Kronos is getting old. Its time for the next generation.
Lol. The Kronos already contains the building blocks for doing almost anything you wish. It's what you make of it.

Simply loading new samples into it would turn it into a 'new' keyboard.

The structure of subtractive synthesis also stays the same, you just have to program patches with new content. etc.

I think my only addition would be to add articulation (like Mind Control for Kontakt) allowing you to impose logical conditions to increase expressiveness far, far beyond simple velocity switching. Articulation increases the sound design possibilities and realism exponentially, particularly useful for acoustic instrumental sounds.

Brass and wind modelling would be good too.

Posted: Wed Jul 02, 2014 1:49 pm
by gjvti
In general I would agree, that kronos as software doesn't sound old at all, but it is rather old hardware wise. Taking into account the fact that today's most advanced mobile phones are more powerful than atom used in konos, I'd like to hope the some next kronos iteration in future will be more portable (9 kronos engines and features packed in gadget style) allowing it to carry around easily and everywhere - do sound design/programming while on the road and at the same time providing full playability in studio/live. Well I know this mobility approach isn't popular so wouldn't expect anything actually.

Posted: Wed Jul 02, 2014 9:34 pm
by RAYDAR
a desktop Kronos module workstaion is what i need

Still i wait

Posted: Thu Jul 03, 2014 3:44 am
by el_hombre
What about the ARP reissue?

Posted: Thu Jul 03, 2014 12:52 pm
by Bertotti
Just out of curiosity what constitutes old hardware? I have had my Kronos a little over a year and hardware wise the only thing about it I would like changed is adding more knobs and sliders. Especially two sets of sliders for organ use. That however is just a personal whim. I myself don't see anything dated about the hardware. Now the guts of the beast are older tech so like I have mentioned before it would be nice to just swap out the boards for more powerful one. Maybe I am rambling but , I really hope the Kronos hS a very long run!

Posted: Thu Jul 03, 2014 2:21 pm
by gjvti
Bertotti wrote:Just out of curiosity what constitutes old hardware?...
when parts supplier discontinues some parts
http://www.cpu-world.com/news_2012/2012 ... ssors.html
even if atom board used in Kronos still might be available as embedded product it is probably quite close to end of the life
Bertotti wrote:... hardware wise the only thing about it I would like changed is adding more knobs and sliders. Especially two sets of sliders for organ use....
for additional sliders you can look here for example
http://global.novationmusic.com/midi-co ... ro-sl-mkii
or perhaps here
http://www.behringer.com/EN/Products/BCF2000.aspx
...
Bertotti wrote:.... it would be nice to just swap out the boards for more powerful one.....
just more power doesn't make much sense as software is optimized for what is built in kronos right now. It would probably make more sense to implement more modern lightweight fan-less design requiring less power and of course some folks would like to see compact desktop/tablet/rack version... but.... it is slim chance for that to happen

Posted: Thu Jul 03, 2014 3:37 pm
by Bald Eagle
Polyphony could be increased with newer hardware.

Posted: Thu Jul 03, 2014 3:51 pm
by SanderXpander
While this is true I would say that most users don't run into voice stealing on a regular basis. I never have, but I always play live with a full band or duo/trio with just piano/rhodes.

Posted: Thu Jul 03, 2014 4:00 pm
by Bald Eagle
I agree that polyphony should not be an issue playing live with a band. That's what the rest of the band is there for. But in a sequenced studio setting polyphony can be a problem.

Posted: Thu Jul 03, 2014 4:06 pm
by Bertotti
Agreed but my dream is that the guts would be updated as kits and the main outer enclosure, that I have become familiar with, would continue to have a long life.

Posted: Thu Jul 03, 2014 4:28 pm
by Bald Eagle
Bring back the pads.

Posted: Sun Jul 06, 2014 2:15 am
by Bertotti
Any chance Nord may have a replacement for the stage2? Or something new from Kurz? or is it wrong timing, perhaps they save all the good stuff for Messe.

Posted: Sun Jul 06, 2014 10:44 am
by Jan1
Yamaha's answer to the KRONOS is here: a re-release of the Motif XF.
But, it's white! :shock:
I like a white workstation, but somehow I had expected a teeny weeny bit more from Yamaha.
A MOXF is a much better deal for someone looking for the Motif sound, and I honestly don't understand this move. It does not make me want to rush out and buy the new Motif.

Posted: Sun Jul 06, 2014 2:17 pm
by nitecrawler
Jan1 wrote:Yamaha's answer to the KRONOS is here: a re-release of the Motif XF.
But, it's white! :shock:
I like a white workstation, but somehow I had expected a teeny weeny bit more from Yamaha.
A MOXF is a much better deal for someone looking for the Motif sound, and I honestly don't understand this move. It does not make me want to rush out and buy the new Motif.
It is Yamaha's way of putting something new out without doing anything new. Kind of trying to look like they are committed without any effort, if that makes sense.

Posted: Sun Jul 06, 2014 6:33 pm
by Bald Eagle
Geeze, Yamaha could have at least added a few new patches. But for Yamaha it does get those little "new" flags on websites to attract attention. Moog does it too with their Voyagers. Change the case, call it a tribute edition.

Yamaha obviously doesn't think a major workstation upgrade is worth it. Lets hope Korg doesn't take the same attitude. It did make me check out the XF again so their little marketing ploy worked on me. But I would still go for the black version.