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Hi guys,

I'm fairly new to Korg and i'm still trying to learn how to manage samples and programs. I made the mistake of trying to append a .pcg into a already used user bank. Why? Because i like system and order. There was no clear way to make the programs that i wanted to import get into the bank i already had begun to use, so i saw the word APPEND. Great! This will do the trick. Oh, Holiest cr*p! i re-wrote the whole bank! UNDOOO!" But there is no UNDO on the Kronos X, is there? Why is there no UNDO? buhu... I only lost 5 sounds, and i know how to rebuild them - but its kinda annoying that there's no UNDO.

Sure, this is an IUE (idiot user error,) but come on, the Korg disk and file system is just about as good as a brick is at flying. You need a PhD to manouvre the damn thing and i only have a masters degree in performing arts. Its predestined to doom.

WISHLIST Korg R&D: please make a idiot-proof file managment system: One file (or package, like .app in OS X) with whatever data. Tell me what it contains, programs/combis/etc. Make me choose what i want to use from the file, one program or a whole combi. Tell me where i can put it, and inform said idiot that this or that slot is un-available. Don't give me a gazillion options, just put the data where it should be, and make it work. No auto-load KSC and s**t. To much hassle. I aint saying it will be easy, but we don't do stuff 'cause its easy, now do we?

(...)not because they are easy, but because they are hard(...)

End rant

Actually, the Korg file system is miles ahead of its competitors and what you are wishing for is already the status quo. All you need to do is read the manual on the relevant parts.

Congratulation, you officially contributed *nothing*. Perhaps you read the Matrix like Neo, but most of us don't, and seriously, whats the point? The point of technology is simplicity, not nerd-jack-offs. While it has the core and strength of ms-dos, it's useless like Windows Vista; a crap interface that makes life worse, and that's the truth.

Whoooaaaa slow down there Buschman.

Obviously you are frustrated and in a calmer moment you may actually present some good ideas, but don't be throwing jabs at one of the most helpful persons on this forum.

I have a sign that says "Be Nice Or Leave". Just saying.....

I realize that you might not like my response but I'm very serious. Read the manual on the relevant parts and everything will become clear. The Korg file system is very logical. The Kronos has too many possibilities for a single "Idiot proof" solution.
Also, if you have a specific question, ask it, and we will try to help. As it is, you wrote a rant in understandable frustration. Other than saying "I don't understand how any of it works" there was only complaining in there, which is why I referred you to the manual.

buschmann wrote:it has the core and strength of ms-dos,

The glory of ignorance !!!
Study Kronos firstly , then read manuals , and if still do not like it , then sell it and do not "shout" your frustration aggressively
at forum's members , 'cause Kronos still remains your best option like it or not !!!

Thank you for being understanding, and no serious punches intended. Apologies. But still, i consider myself a more than technical capable guy, with a degree and everything - this system is not at all practical. I don't argue that it works, it surely works like nothing else but that in it self does not justify the fact the the design of operations lacks a human touch. But, this is preaching in the wrong church, and this rant will not change the world.. I will now take your advice and read till i bleed, perhaps i will reach enlightenment.

Everybody would welcome an Undo function for Kronos functions ... it's a piece of cake for a programmer to add a few code
lines and assign some ALU kbs temp memory allocation for this , but as a "capable" person you should know that you can't
ever recover a overwritten file , in any OS in the world of programming since a .Back file is required to be saved ...
No keyboard in the world has this feature !
Therefore before you face a totally loss of your work later , which is very easy to be occurred , read manuals to learn the structure
of this Linux 32 Kenel based OS , to organize safely your work !

1) the reference to ms-dos was an arbitrary, it could have been UNIX, which it incidentally is, and i know it is. It does not matter.

2) The point was that it is a reason we made GUI's: to make it more manageable, not as it is in this case, as much work as working with a command line. Having skimmed through the manual again i find that there's no way to finly control where my programs go. As far as i can see i can load a .PCG and tell it to go to this and this bank, but what ever exists will be overwritten.Question: Must i always have two "delivery" banks available? So that i can copy them there, then manually move them to my preferred bank(s)?

3) i know a overwritten file is hard to recover, and in any practical sense mission impossible, but thank you for reminding me.

buschmann wrote:As far as i can see i can load a .PCG and tell it to go to this and this bank, but

That's why manual is required !
You open PCG file , open whatever there and browse where to save it !
Always save your previous PCG , since many things can happen from any awkward manipulation or confusion.
Saving resources functions are indeed complicated but believe me when you learn everything then you'll realize the obvious reasons !
Kronos is a very advanced engine with endless features and interfaces to be easy to program !

Aha! So insted of loading the whole .pcg, which will overwrite the bank selected, i go inside the .pcg and make a multiple selection and place the programs at my desired location?

buschmann wrote:Aha! So insted of loading the whole .pcg, which will overwrite the bank selected, i go inside the .pcg and make a multiple selection and place the programs at my desired location?

Yep ... even a single sound/combi , but read manual of Banks types since you can save only under same type of banks !
You can also save a particular Bank in a PCG !

Thank you.

Best wishes from the angry viking.