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Well a lot of people now mix in R128 which is about -23lu or db of RMS as
we used to know it...even Vu meters are obsolete.
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I would say R128 needs more sophisticated metering than a VU meter :)

And Chilly, that makes a lot more sense, I got from your original post that you don't use EQ or compression at all. The way I'm understanding it now, you simply print them directly to disk. It's a good practice to maximize source quality. I don't think I could work this way and forego any compression and EQ entirely during mixdown but I understand your workflow a lot better now. Bit of a waste of that expensive Mac processing power though ;)
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BasariStudios wrote:Well a lot of people now mix in R128 which is about -23lu or db of RMS as
we used to know it...even Vu meters are obsolete.
I do not use this matering at all!
I do differently
But i think my way is better
Because it works equality well for musician and for consumer!

But in order not to confuse u i will tell that later.
:)
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chilly7 wrote:
BasariStudios wrote:Well a lot of people now mix in R128 which is about -23lu or db of RMS as
we used to know it...even Vu meters are obsolete.
I do not use this matering at all!
I do differently
But i think my way is better
Because it works equality well for musician and for consumer!

But in order not to confuse u i will tell that later.
:)
Do you even understand what they are trying to tell you?
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Lol.
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Bachus wrote:
chilly7 wrote:
BasariStudios wrote:Well a lot of people now mix in R128 which is about -23lu or db of RMS as
we used to know it...even Vu meters are obsolete.
I do not use this matering at all!
I do differently
But i think my way is better
Because it works equality well for musician and for consumer!

But in order not to confuse u i will tell that later.
:)
Do you even understand what they are trying to tell you?
No i do not understand those megerments.
Because i think my way is better!
I use my ears.
But befor that i need propertly set up audio system so
1)it sound the same in target audience.
2)i get the best possible sound.
3) and also it is safly for health.
How i do that i will explaint later.

P.s.
The problem with conventional megerments on consumer side the final audio has different peek sound levels so as result sound can be too laud or to quite. So this is one of the reson of laudness wars that nobody knows at what max volum consumer will listen audio so music makers do not bother and put sound level to max with no or wary little dinamics!

Wait until u actualy see my way of doing it befor jagdjing it is good or bad!!
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Post by SanderXpander »

This is actually exactly what the new broadcast music standard referred to in short as "R128" is about. Except that it does it a little more precisely than you.
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SanderXpander wrote:This is actually exactly what the new broadcast music standard referred to in short as "R128" is about. Except that it does it a little more precisely than you.
I will take a look at this when i have time!
Maby it is the same what i do. lol :lol:
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EvilDragon wrote:Controlling the sizzle of cymbals is another thing - you don't want them to rip at your ears either. How else would you control that, if not with an EQ? :)
Duct tape....Yep...Duct tape your cymbals....That will take the sizzle right out.... :lol: ....moon
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I think he's saying he would rather find different mics or mic positions, or different cymbals, or play them differently, or even record with hardware EQ than trying to fix them during the mixing stage. I think too many people rely on in the box processes to fix issues so in essence this is good practice. I just wouldn't personally ignore all the advantages of itb during mixdown.
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Yeah, That was my feeble attempt at humor=Duct tape fixes everything.....I'd never actually stick duct tape on my zildjians ....I agree, finding the right equipment/sound BEFORE you hit the record button (space bar) is definitely the way to go....That's why if I had major disposable income, I'd get a nice analog board but oh well.....I also can't imagine not using plugins on the mixdown......Trying to eq/notch things out would be impossible for me at the tracking stage without hearing everything......moon
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I did my song. Here is a separate thread.
http://www.korgforums.com/forum/phpBB2/ ... 920#628920
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