Transpose and Key Mappings

[Arizona Sage]

I'm not sure either...I'm going to fire my band...LOL

[Xs10tial]

Why in the name of Satan's portion are they tuning down like that?! If it's actually just a semitone - why not just play in a key semitone below?!

Many, many guitar based bands do this. It makes the guitars sound heavier, you can use thicker strings and play open stringed Eb power chords and such.

It has nothing to do with the guitar. It's that the band works 6-10 times a week and does Journey, Yes, Zeppelin, Deep Purple etc. and it saves the singer/guitarist's voice.

[psychostixx]

My band plays in 438 (Eb). Have a Don't Stop Believing Combi where the upper range is a synth that splits down to the piano and chorus'd bass. When I made the combi I did it in 440. Played it live the first time and had that one god awful piano note ring through when I transposed it and hit the chords during "Street Lights...". Note to self....allow more than a one semitone buffer for splits.

To the novice starting to work with a band that is a half step down can someone explain the last statement for me? If it was transposed how did a note get through and what "Buffer" do you mean? I finally got a handle on this and now I have to panic that the transposing is going to screw me up.

My friends told me to stick with drums......

[psychostixx]

My band plays in 438 (Eb). Have a Don't Stop Believing Combi where the upper range is a synth that splits down to the piano and chorus'd bass. When I made the combi I did it in 440. Played it live the first time and had that one god awful piano note ring through when I transposed it and hit the chords during "Street Lights...". Note to self....allow more than a one semitone buffer for splits.

To the novice starting to work with a band that is a half step down can someone explain the last statement for me? If it was transposed how did a note get through and what "Buffer" do you mean? I finally got a handle on this and now I have to panic that the transposing is going to screw me up.

My friends told me to stick with drums......

[Arizona Sage]

I'm in a few different projects that utilize half step (Eb) tuning as well as standard pitch. I create all my combis at standard and then simply adjust the transposition in the setlist. Splits are maintained and all remains well in the world. I actually like this Korg behavior because sometimes I play the same song in different projects....in different keys. Transposing at the setlist level is non destructive and easy to adjust on the fly.

[Arizona Sage]

To the novice starting to work with a band that is a half step down can someone explain the last statement for me? If it was transposed how did a note get through and what "Buffer" do you mean? I finally got a handle on this and now I have to panic that the transposing is going to screw me up.

My friends told me to stick with drums...... [/quote]

If I remember correctly I had adjusted the pitch feature at the combi level instead of the setlist level, which altered the split points.

Since this thread was originated (c2015) I've recreated my DSB patches and have had no issues when transposing at the setlist level.

[psychostixx]

I have a combi that uses a few samples. when I go into setlist and transpose to -1 all the sounds seem right not sure yet about split points yet but the samples do shift keys. I saved the combi to another slot and adjusted each timbre by -1 except the timbre with samples. I then set the sample timbres to detune -100. this seems to sound correctly but not sure about the splits yet. I like to just use setlist transpose, works great if no samples but still not sure yet. I don't see any global settings that effect this behavior.


Thanks all as always

[Arizona Sage]

Yes samples can be a bit wonky in that regard. Not sure why