Issues using Kronos' sounds as midi data in Logic Pro 9

joeydiamondz · Post by **joeydiamondz** » Tue Feb 17, 2015 1:45 am

Hey guys first time posting a thread on this forum, been reading a lot of forums everywhere looking to find the solution to my problem. I seen other people post videos of using the Kronos' sounds directly into Logic 9 as an external MIDI and use the MIDI data from the kronos sounds to further edit on Logic's piano roll to quantize etc. I also seen them have the patches to all the kronos sounds in logic so they select the sounds desired directly thru logic. I've had my kronos and have been very disappointed in not being able to use the sounds directly in Logic to finish producing my records. I cannot play exactly on point so using an audio track on logic doesn't allow me to polish up what I played exactly how I desire.

So pretty much I am looking for the answer on how I can produce my records using the Kronos sounds directly on logic as if it was a logic software instrument. I have all these beautiful sounds on the kronos but I just want to sequence everything on logic and not on kronos. I don't use the combis and sequencing on the kronos but just love the sounds and I want to further sequence everything on Logic.

Yesterday I bought KARMA for Kronos hoping this can help me, but that didn't help me solve this solution at all. I don't know if I should return KARMA or if it really is a software I need. Praying that somebody helps me use my kronos as I initially intended.

I have an
IMac
RME BabyFace (audio interface)
Logic 9
Pro Tools 10
KARMA for Kronos X
Kronos X (connected thru USB and also have midi in/out cables going into BabyFace )

P.S. I can use the kronos to play logics software instruments and I hear the kronos on playback when I open an audio track. But when it comes to recording midi data and hearing playback, I hear nothing.

Blessings to all who will help me, thank you.

bobmusic · Post by **bobmusic** » Tue Feb 17, 2015 9:18 am

Your topic says "Kronos sounds as midi data". You know that midi data contains no sound(audio-data) in itself, only note on/off, note duration, velocity, modulation/pitchbend data etc.?
When you want to use program-mode only on your Kronos, as you write, you will always hear only the program that is selected on your Kronos when you play back a recorded midi track in Logic (provided midiport/channel is matching).
When you want to select and record another sound from Kronos on a new track, and you want to continue to hear the first sound, you have to bounce this first one as an AUDIO-track. After that you can mute the midi track and keep it if you want to change something later (and have to bounce it with the changes again).

Another solution would be to use Kronos combination mode. Here you are able to use up to 16 sounds simultaneously (provided everyone is set to a different midi channel) without the need of bouncing every single sequence.
If you are interested, i made two Logic_Multiinstruments that contain the program names of all factory programs so that you can read and select them directly from a Logic track.

PCFREE · Post by **PCFREE** » Tue Feb 17, 2015 12:18 pm

Hi

When creating a new track, make sure you select "new midi track" in Logic, if you want to record midi data. When you select "external midi," you should see the Kronos as a midi source in the drop down menu
Hope this helps

joeydiamondz · Post by **joeydiamondz** » Tue Feb 17, 2015 2:29 pm

bobmusic wrote:
Another solution would be to use Kronos combination mode. Here you are able to use up to 16 sounds simultaneously (provided everyone is set to a different midi channel) without the need of bouncing every single sequence.
If you are interested, i made two Logic_Multiinstruments that contain the program names of all factory programs so that you can read and select them directly from a Logic track.

Thank you Bob I will greatly appreciate that logic multi instruments, it will help me a lot with my workflow. I realized yesterday thru frustrating trial and error that the only way I can use the Kronos sounds is how you said "bouncing each midi track to audio before moving onto the next track". So if the logic multiinstrument you created can help me use the combi mode to create all the sounds I made on the Kronos to bounce into midi data all in their own channels then please I would love the download link if possible. Thanks Bob!
-Joey

bobmusic · Post by **bobmusic** » Tue Feb 17, 2015 3:55 pm

Here's the link from the old thread:

http://www.korgforums.com/forum/phpBB2/ ... ight=logic

If you have other banks loaded in your Kronos, than not all names will match, but you can paste and replace them in the Multiinstrument and save the song as a template.
If you have Kronos 2 then of course a lot of names has to be changed. But the custom bank changes, needed to reach every bank/program location inside Kronos remain the same.