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Music messe... Whats new..

Posted: Wed Apr 15, 2015 8:10 am
by Bachus
Next to the Korg Havian there is the following keynews, this early morning

ketron SD7 arranger

Roland JD-XA official introduction

Nord Stage 2EX announcement

Roland Modular synth expansion in the aira range system 500

TC helicon voicelive 3 extreme introduction


More to follow..

- no real news from Yamaha, tree low level modern day home pianos and an ipad app showing 40 years of yamaha synth history, including some synth example sounds.... Clearly Yamaha started living in the past...

Posted: Wed Apr 15, 2015 8:48 am
by chilly7
I did not find anything intresting. Maby u can find somethng.

Posted: Wed Apr 15, 2015 12:58 pm
by Ksynth
chilly7 wrote:I did not find anything intresting. Maby u can find somethng.
8 voice poly analogue synth

http://www.musicradar.com/us/news/tech/ ... nth-619509

Some features:

Modal Electronics 008 features
008 provides eight discrete voices of polyphony with an uncompromising analogue architecture utilising the highest grade components throughout
Two 100% analogue VCOs per voice with two sub oscillators, providing sawtooth, triangle, square with PWM and noise. Each of the waveforms can be blended together to provide completely new complex wave shapes
Innovative and extremely flexible 16 multi-mode filter, consisting of traditional modes such as low-pass, band-pass and high-pass as well as more unusual notch, phase and combination modes.
Filter overdrive enables the sound to be driven to sonic extremes
A range of classic analogue polysynth features such as oscillator and filter FM bringing amazing sonic power
Two LFOs, both capable of reaching audio rates with multiple wave shapes and midi sync
11 modulation sources with unlimited destinations. Each destination can be set it's own unique depth, a super smooth sample rate of 10kHz and all accessible from the front panel – no menu diving
008 features a range of sequencing options – a built in 2 Track, 12 row, 32 step sequencer with 16 dedicated step time editing knobs on the front panel and MIDI sync capabilities. Sequences can also be transposed dynamically while running
A very highly featured arpeggiator with a wide range of different modes, including 'hold' mode, enabling arpeggiator-based sequences to be created
The Modal Electronics Animator, which enables any control parameter on the 008 to be sequenced, enabling very complex filter transisitions, wave form changes and modulation matrix changes to be sequenced
Ethernet port to connect your 008 to your network and enable updates via the internet (no more midi sysex dumps) and access to the Modal Electronics cloud features
Two part multi-timbral (bi timbral) allowing splits across the keyboard or stacks to create amazingly complex sounds
Superb UI, a great departure from the norm of synthesisers, featuring a very high quality 4.3″ screen with wide viewing angle, display is context sensitive where the control parameters of any control knob that is touched by the user, is immediately displayed
Eight 'quick recall banks' are accessible directly from the front panel, enabling performing musicians to get rid of their set sheets and build set lists of presets, sequences and animations, all quickly accessible from dedicated front panel buttons. Up to ten banks of quick recalls can be created, making live performance a doddle
Ultra fast (1ms) VCF and VCA envelope generators. VCF-EG is one of the 11 modulation sources that can be freely assigned to any parameter by it's own unique amount
Four Key Modes – Polyphonic, Monophonic, Unison and Stack
Very high quality construction, uses a premium FATAR semi-weighted five octave key mechanism with aftertouch
All voice control parameters are accessible from a well designed and intuitive front panel, that follows a traditional synthesiser work flow
Combined XLR/TRS sockets for balanced / unbalanced outputs. Further, each of the eight outputs can be brought out individually via a dedicated d-sub socket.
Optional Digital Output board providing multi voice outputs over USB (Class Compliant) with FX available Q2 2015.
Two audio inputs enabling audio processing from the VCF onwards plus external MIDI in and out
XY joystick and Sustain and Expression pedal inputs for performance controls – any control parameter can be assigned to any joystick axis (X+, X-, Y+, Y-) by pressing the dedicated front panel selector button

Posted: Wed Apr 15, 2015 2:15 pm
by chilly7
Ksynth wrote:
chilly7 wrote:I did not find anything intresting. Maby u can find somethng.
8 voice poly analogue synth

http://www.musicradar.com/us/news/tech/ ... nth-619509

Some features:

Modal Electronics 008 features
008 provides eight discrete voices of polyphony with an uncompromising analogue architecture utilising the highest grade components throughout
Two 100% analogue VCOs per voice with two sub oscillators, providing sawtooth, triangle, square with PWM and noise. Each of the waveforms can be blended together to provide completely new complex wave shapes
Innovative and extremely flexible 16 multi-mode filter, consisting of traditional modes such as low-pass, band-pass and high-pass as well as more unusual notch, phase and combination modes.
Filter overdrive enables the sound to be driven to sonic extremes
A range of classic analogue polysynth features such as oscillator and filter FM bringing amazing sonic power
Two LFOs, both capable of reaching audio rates with multiple wave shapes and midi sync
11 modulation sources with unlimited destinations. Each destination can be set it's own unique depth, a super smooth sample rate of 10kHz and all accessible from the front panel – no menu diving
008 features a range of sequencing options – a built in 2 Track, 12 row, 32 step sequencer with 16 dedicated step time editing knobs on the front panel and MIDI sync capabilities. Sequences can also be transposed dynamically while running
A very highly featured arpeggiator with a wide range of different modes, including 'hold' mode, enabling arpeggiator-based sequences to be created
The Modal Electronics Animator, which enables any control parameter on the 008 to be sequenced, enabling very complex filter transisitions, wave form changes and modulation matrix changes to be sequenced
Ethernet port to connect your 008 to your network and enable updates via the internet (no more midi sysex dumps) and access to the Modal Electronics cloud features
Two part multi-timbral (bi timbral) allowing splits across the keyboard or stacks to create amazingly complex sounds
Superb UI, a great departure from the norm of synthesisers, featuring a very high quality 4.3″ screen with wide viewing angle, display is context sensitive where the control parameters of any control knob that is touched by the user, is immediately displayed
Eight 'quick recall banks' are accessible directly from the front panel, enabling performing musicians to get rid of their set sheets and build set lists of presets, sequences and animations, all quickly accessible from dedicated front panel buttons. Up to ten banks of quick recalls can be created, making live performance a doddle
Ultra fast (1ms) VCF and VCA envelope generators. VCF-EG is one of the 11 modulation sources that can be freely assigned to any parameter by it's own unique amount
Four Key Modes – Polyphonic, Monophonic, Unison and Stack
Very high quality construction, uses a premium FATAR semi-weighted five octave key mechanism with aftertouch
All voice control parameters are accessible from a well designed and intuitive front panel, that follows a traditional synthesiser work flow
Combined XLR/TRS sockets for balanced / unbalanced outputs. Further, each of the eight outputs can be brought out individually via a dedicated d-sub socket.
Optional Digital Output board providing multi voice outputs over USB (Class Compliant) with FX available Q2 2015.
Two audio inputs enabling audio processing from the VCF onwards plus external MIDI in and out
XY joystick and Sustain and Expression pedal inputs for performance controls – any control parameter can be assigned to any joystick axis (X+, X-, Y+, Y-) by pressing the dedicated front panel selector button
Looks interesting but i have no use for it because i use high quality software and maby the sound of high end software is stil notl there to much the sound of high end analog hardwear with software u can do much more.

Posted: Wed Apr 15, 2015 3:46 pm
by Bachus
chilly7 wrote:
Ksynth wrote:
chilly7 wrote:I did not find anything intresting. Maby u can find somethng.
8 voice poly analogue synth

http://www.musicradar.com/us/news/tech/ ... nth-619509

Some features:

Modal Electronics 008 features
008 provides eight discrete voices of polyphony with an uncompromising analogue architecture utilising the highest grade components throughout
Two 100% analogue VCOs per voice with two sub oscillators, providing sawtooth, triangle, square with PWM and noise. Each of the waveforms can be blended together to provide completely new complex wave shapes
Innovative and extremely flexible 16 multi-mode filter, consisting of traditional modes such as low-pass, band-pass and high-pass as well as more unusual notch, phase and combination modes.
Filter overdrive enables the sound to be driven to sonic extremes
A range of classic analogue polysynth features such as oscillator and filter FM bringing amazing sonic power
Two LFOs, both capable of reaching audio rates with multiple wave shapes and midi sync
11 modulation sources with unlimited destinations. Each destination can be set it's own unique depth, a super smooth sample rate of 10kHz and all accessible from the front panel – no menu diving
008 features a range of sequencing options – a built in 2 Track, 12 row, 32 step sequencer with 16 dedicated step time editing knobs on the front panel and MIDI sync capabilities. Sequences can also be transposed dynamically while running
A very highly featured arpeggiator with a wide range of different modes, including 'hold' mode, enabling arpeggiator-based sequences to be created
The Modal Electronics Animator, which enables any control parameter on the 008 to be sequenced, enabling very complex filter transisitions, wave form changes and modulation matrix changes to be sequenced
Ethernet port to connect your 008 to your network and enable updates via the internet (no more midi sysex dumps) and access to the Modal Electronics cloud features
Two part multi-timbral (bi timbral) allowing splits across the keyboard or stacks to create amazingly complex sounds
Superb UI, a great departure from the norm of synthesisers, featuring a very high quality 4.3″ screen with wide viewing angle, display is context sensitive where the control parameters of any control knob that is touched by the user, is immediately displayed
Eight 'quick recall banks' are accessible directly from the front panel, enabling performing musicians to get rid of their set sheets and build set lists of presets, sequences and animations, all quickly accessible from dedicated front panel buttons. Up to ten banks of quick recalls can be created, making live performance a doddle
Ultra fast (1ms) VCF and VCA envelope generators. VCF-EG is one of the 11 modulation sources that can be freely assigned to any parameter by it's own unique amount
Four Key Modes – Polyphonic, Monophonic, Unison and Stack
Very high quality construction, uses a premium FATAR semi-weighted five octave key mechanism with aftertouch
All voice control parameters are accessible from a well designed and intuitive front panel, that follows a traditional synthesiser work flow
Combined XLR/TRS sockets for balanced / unbalanced outputs. Further, each of the eight outputs can be brought out individually via a dedicated d-sub socket.
Optional Digital Output board providing multi voice outputs over USB (Class Compliant) with FX available Q2 2015.
Two audio inputs enabling audio processing from the VCF onwards plus external MIDI in and out
XY joystick and Sustain and Expression pedal inputs for performance controls – any control parameter can be assigned to any joystick axis (X+, X-, Y+, Y-) by pressing the dedicated front panel selector button
Looks interesting but i have no use for it because i use high quality software and maby the sound of high end software is stil notl there to much the sound of high end analog hardwear with software u can do much more.
Real analog sound still has not been captured by digital computer based solutions, it comes close, but thats it...

Posted: Wed Apr 15, 2015 4:00 pm
by Jan1
Roland certainly succeeded in stealing the show alright.
Other than that there's not as much news as I expected there would be.
Anyway, it's good to see Roland's comeback.

Posted: Wed Apr 15, 2015 5:32 pm
by SanderXpander
I'm glad to see that Roland hasn't lost the will to compete and bring innovative products to the masses. They've had a bunch of weird decisions in recent times but this one seems akin to Korg's analog revival with the volcas and the mini editions. Not innovative from a niche perspective but certainly the only major brand taking this angle right now and hopefully they'll be able to capitalize on the growing popularity of the modular system.

Posted: Wed Apr 15, 2015 5:53 pm
by Bachus
Roland allways builds new and fresh products, very innovative...

But if its smart in the long run? There is so many V-synth users that will like this new synth, but will they trade off their varrangers for it?

if they would have added this on top of a v-synth and other Roland technollogies of the past...they would have a Kronos contender at their hands...

Posted: Wed Apr 15, 2015 9:07 pm
by sound4sina
Korg hasn't innovated for a while. Sure, some SGX-1 functionality that went into the latest Kronos was cool, but far off from Roland's latest stuff. The fact that Korg is upselling with the few additions from the previous Kronos model. Same with the PA-series. Feels like things have been stagnant, innovation-wise, since Pa2x/PA800.

Posted: Wed Apr 15, 2015 9:38 pm
by Bachus
sound4sina wrote:Korg hasn't innovated for a while. Sure, some SGX-1 functionality that went into the latest Kronos was cool, but far off from Roland's latest stuff. The fact that Korg is upselling with the few additions from the previous Kronos model. Same with the PA-series. Feels like things have been stagnant, innovation-wise, since Pa2x/PA800.
Its even worse with yamahas workstation range... The XF which is the same as an XS technollogy is aboit 8 years old..

Roland atleast keeps innovating

Posted: Wed Apr 15, 2015 9:51 pm
by SanderXpander
I don't know much about the arrangers but I don't think you can even technically call Korg Arrangers and Korg pro-audio the same company, development-wise.

I feel the Kronos was, in spite of being built on Oasys tech, a revolutionary product because it brought that kind of technology to the masses. The Oasys was simply out of reach and out of class for most keyboard players and as such never really competed with the Motif or Fantom - there was the M3 for that.

Also, while some may deem the reissue of analog machines (volcas and mini models) quaint or nostalgic rather than innovative, it was certainly unique and succesful when compared to other major manufacturers. In that sense I feel Korg has definitely innovated on the market when compared to, say, Yamaha.

Posted: Wed Apr 15, 2015 11:23 pm
by Bertotti
I was hoping for something more creative from Nord but the stage 2 ex just seems like the stage two with a tweak and some memory.

Posted: Wed Apr 15, 2015 11:49 pm
by Thoraldus
sound4sina wrote:Korg hasn't innovated for a while. Sure, some SGX-1 functionality that went into the latest Kronos was cool, but far off from Roland's latest stuff. The fact that Korg is upselling with the few additions from the previous Kronos model. Same with the PA-series. Feels like things have been stagnant, innovation-wise, since Pa2x/PA800.
This may only mean that they have a big project in development that takes a bit longer than the typical design cycle. Think positive! ;-)

Posted: Thu Apr 16, 2015 2:38 pm
by Bachus
Thoraldus wrote:
sound4sina wrote:Korg hasn't innovated for a while. Sure, some SGX-1 functionality that went into the latest Kronos was cool, but far off from Roland's latest stuff. The fact that Korg is upselling with the few additions from the previous Kronos model. Same with the PA-series. Feels like things have been stagnant, innovation-wise, since Pa2x/PA800.
This may only mean that they have a big project in development that takes a bit longer than the typical design cycle. Think positive! ;-)
Thats what i would say from Yamaha... They are either brewing something sensational or new called Montage... Or they are retiring..

Posted: Thu Apr 16, 2015 3:55 pm
by chilly7
Bachus wrote:
sound4sina wrote:Korg hasn't innovated for a while. Sure, some SGX-1 functionality that went into the latest Kronos was cool, but far off from Roland's latest stuff. The fact that Korg is upselling with the few additions from the previous Kronos model. Same with the PA-series. Feels like things have been stagnant, innovation-wise, since Pa2x/PA800.
Its even worse with yamahas workstation range... The XF which is the same as an XS technollogy is aboit 8 years old..

Roland atleast keeps innovating
The AWM 2 engine which is core of Motif XF if i am not wrong more then 25 years old.