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Can this be done?
Posted: Thu Apr 30, 2015 12:14 am
by marcdeben
Hi folks, I would like to see if this can be done on our beloved Kronos. I would like to set up a combi with a drum track from one of the companion drum tracks from a program and have that drum track go to the drummers monitor and the house. then I want to put in three other programs and control the volume of each from the sliders. The 3 sounds are no problem. the drums however are the issue for me. How do I get the drums to come out of output 1 and 2 and not trigger the individual drums from the keyboard itself when I play the other sounds. If you have a better idea I'm all ears! Thanks Marc
Posted: Thu Apr 30, 2015 12:55 am
by billbaker
Drum track should run separate from any other voices that are part of the combination.
Example: in your set up tracks 1 2 & 3 are melodic sounds. None of those sounds, or more specifically the keys used to play them, should play anything drum track related. Drum track's assigned kit (running or not) is not actually played by the keyboard.
If you are playing a sequenced drum track, call that instrument 4, it might be an issue. If all of the key tracks (1-2-3) and drums (4) are on the same channel then playing keys will result in drums sounding as you play.
Having the drums on a separate channel (e.g. midi channel 2) should make it so that the keyboard (which plays the global/channel 1 assigned sounds) does not play drum sounds.
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Posted: Thu Apr 30, 2015 1:03 am
by billbaker
Note: you will need to assign that program's drum track (pattern) and select the kit to play it under the combination's drum track section -- there is no need to actually select a drum kit as part of the combination's instrument track set up.
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Posted: Thu Apr 30, 2015 2:53 am
by marcdeben
Awesome thanks but is there a way to have the drums go out the main outs with the rest of the sounds and just the drums to another pair of outputs so I can send it to the drummer.
Posted: Thu Apr 30, 2015 3:24 am
by apex
I was just about to type a message concerning that part of your question:
One smooth way to do this would be to set up two different tracks in your combination (that are both triggering your dram track sequence) I would then (via the effects/outputs tab) I would send one of those tracks out the main L/R OUTPUTS and ten send the other track out of the individual outputs.
Posted: Thu Apr 30, 2015 3:27 am
by apex
To be honest I would probably not send drums out of the same outputs as my keyboard instruments.... That's gonna be kinda hard for the FOH engineers to mix... I would ask for a dedicated channel for your drum track. Send that to the FOH engineer and let them mix that into the drummers monitor themselves. That way they have full control over what he needs.... You can set it up and then let them handle the rest of the work.
Make sense?
Posted: Thu Apr 30, 2015 3:29 am
by apex
So you will have a left/right DI for your Kronos main outputs then a single DI for the drum track. That's the simplest and most efficient way to set it up.
Posted: Thu Apr 30, 2015 3:45 am
by marcdeben
Yes!!! It worked Apex Thanks you both so much. And yes I will let the house mix the drum track but for rehearsal I needed a way to give the drummer a way to play with the congas I'm sending out. I could not figure out where the outputs where assigned. I didn't realize it was in the Insert effect tab.
Thanks again, You guys Rock!!
Posted: Thu Apr 30, 2015 3:47 am
by apex
Glad it helped. Please be aware that that double track concept/idea will eat double polyphony.
Good luck!