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Seems with some people there's simply no pleasing.

Guys, don't waste this good opportunity. Make your selection on the Poll and if you have something helpful or insightful to add, make it something worth reading since KORG is following the thread. Nothing is gained from being negative towards this.

I'm looking over old posts in this part of the forum right now and I'm seeing the same names popping up who stink up threads and spoil them for others. That's going to stop.

Sharp.

Here are three small changes that would really make the Electriebe units work on another level without needing much CPU power.

1. MOMENTARY mode for MUTE so you can HOLD mute down to select the parts you want to mute and then go straight back to the mode you were working in upon release

2. ODD STEPPER/EVEN STEPPER/DOUBLE/HALF etc modes and STEP JUMP MODE to STAY IN TIME WITH GLOBAL TTIMING.
(or an easy way to resync all parts seamlessly) ....to me these modes are the best potential that this unit has but I am not using them simply because in a live performance 9 out of 10 times, using these modes leaves my layers mis-aligned both with parts not affected and with any externally synced devices.

3. 1/8th 1/4th 1/2nd SPEED MODES per part, this is REALLY important to let musicians make music live within a single pattern that takes longer than four bars to repeat, we can live with each step being "longer".we just need to be able to make longer passages

If Korg is listening, I'd love them to consider a Shift function for the insert effects, which would really improve things.

See this for my suggestions. http://www.korgforums.com/forum/phpbb2/ ... hp?t=98674

So according to this poll (admittedly only 70 responses yet), most people use their electribe at home / in the studio, yet with the Electribe 2 the ability to copy / move / repeat / transpose data in patterns (basically the essentials of manual sequencing) has been removed.

I too bemoaned these omissions at first. I don't miss them in the slightest now.

apapdop wrote:I too bemoaned these omissions at first. I don't miss them in the slightest now.

So suppose you manually enter a 5 note arpeggio and want to repeat that for the rest of the pattern, how would you quickly do that?

Pygmy wrote:

apapdop wrote:I too bemoaned these omissions at first. I don't miss them in the slightest now.

So suppose you manually enter a 5 note arpeggio and want to repeat that for the rest of the pattern, how would you quickly do that?

I would never manually enter a 5 note arpeggio. Life is too short for that kind of thing.

Pygmy wrote:

apapdop wrote:I too bemoaned these omissions at first. I don't miss them in the slightest now.

So suppose you manually enter a 5 note arpeggio and want to repeat that for the rest of the pattern, how would you quickly do that?

Apart from life being too short to manually enter a five note arpeggio, you just set the last step of the pattern to step 5 and then you don't need to repeat it.

Frenzies wrote:

Pygmy wrote:

apapdop wrote:I too bemoaned these omissions at first. I don't miss them in the slightest now.

So suppose you manually enter a 5 note arpeggio and want to repeat that for the rest of the pattern, how would you quickly do that?

Apart from life being too short to manually enter a five note arpeggio, you just set the last step of the pattern to step 5 and then you don't need to repeat it.

and then you want a minor variation at step 48, and you're back at the same problem again.

I understand that there are people who'd just adapt their way of working.
For me, being able to actually manually edit and shuffle the pattern data to my liking is an essential part of my workflow.

Pygmy wrote:

Frenzies wrote:

Pygmy wrote: So suppose you manually enter a 5 note arpeggio and want to repeat that for the rest of the pattern, how would you quickly do that?

Apart from life being too short to manually enter a five note arpeggio, you just set the last step of the pattern to step 5 and then you don't need to repeat it.

and then you want a minor variation at step 48, and you're back at the same problem again.

Yep. Life is a cruel mistress like that.
What can you say? The unit has its shortcomings. Other groove boxes are available.

Frenzies wrote: Yep. Life is a cruel mistress like that.
What can you say? The unit has its shortcomings. Other groove boxes are available.

Sure. That doesn't mean I can't complain at Korg for removing the most basic functionality from a box that has supported that functionality for 16 years though

I appreciate i may have been a little flippant with my remarks, but in all honesty, i've found that slowing the bpm and playing/recording your variations/repeats is just as easy and quick (erase mode is very useful). It's improved my pad whacking skills too. They are geared more towards playing rather than programming, at the expense of some features that were standard on the older models.

That's exactly it - people used the electribes in 2 ways (at least - all tribe owners I know), either by recording live playing or by manual programming. It seems like Korg has completely ignored the existence of the second group of people with the new machine, and I can't for the life of me figure out why they'd do that.
It's not exactly rocket science to implement copying / moving data in a pattern, and it's not like they couldn't fit it in the available buttons / pads.

Pygmy wrote:

Frenzies wrote: Yep. Life is a cruel mistress like that.
What can you say? The unit has its shortcomings. Other groove boxes are available.

Sure. That doesn't mean I can't complain at Korg for removing the most basic functionality from a box that has supported that functionality for 16 years though

Like others have said, Korg do seem to have aimed these units at performing, hence the fiddly step edit and the lack of copy paste features.