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Sound Design - Oasys Vs V-Synth GT

 
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master logic
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 29, 2007 8:37 pm    Post subject: Sound Design - Oasys Vs V-Synth GT Reply with quote

Has anyone been able to compare these two with regards to Sound Design capabilities for Film / tv & general crazy weirdness?
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 30, 2007 9:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You know what would help now for the oasys? Alot of different people using it, and creating good music, covers for different songs, then that would tell you which one is better Smile I mean after they publish it on different media websites such as youtube.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 31, 2007 11:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi master,

V Synth XT all the way. It's just awesome though the Oasys does do some things that i wish the XT had like really flexible AMS routings.

BUT like most things Roland ... it is a problem getting decent tech support.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 05, 2007 3:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Having played with both of these,they are both capable. I like them both. I think for TV and film the Oasys has more depth in terms of useability to put the whole thing together. I don't believe the V-Synth GT would cover all the bases on film and TV. You could certainly program the sounds but to cover the whole enchilada the Oasys is certainly as more complete option.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 05, 2007 1:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

concur with silver for film/tv but for weirdness and synth textures and sounds ... v - synth all the way.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 05, 2007 6:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've been playing around with the GT at my local store & while i like it (& would love one) i think the Oasys has so much more potential, i also think the Oasys in general has more character over the GT.

Got to say though i hate the responsiveness of the GTs touch screen, maybe it needed callibration but the O is pure luxury in comparison.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 05, 2007 9:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've been answering similar questions in various forums because I have both the V-synth XT and the OASYS 76. Let me start by saying you really can't compare the XT with the OASYS on a feature-to-feature basis. They are two different devices with two different end games. It would be like comparing a violin (V-synth) with a concert orchestra (the OASYS).

The V-synth can be considered an instrument for expression much as a violin is. Yet, it is quite impressive with mangling sounds. While the OASYS is a complete workstation which includes expressive instruments already onboard or available - HD-1, AL-1, LAC-1, etc. The V-synth cannot compete with OASYS' workstation capabilities. And with Karma 2 including Karma wavesequencing, standard wavesequencing, and other editing capabilities, the OASYS can perform mangling of sounds, but not in the same manner as the V-synth.

Now, if designing sounds is your forte, then it doesn't matter. Both are very excellent for creating your own sounds. However, the OASYS has a multitude more choices.

Basically, it comes down to the question: do you want a solo instrument (V-synth) or do you want the full orchestra (OASYS)? That's my take on it.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 06, 2007 3:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Eric,

Great response to this question! I think your answer gives a good perspective to understand what will best suite your needs.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 07, 2007 9:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

master logic wrote:
I've been playing around with the GT at my local store & while i like it (& would love one) i think the Oasys has so much more potential, i also think the Oasys in general has more character over the GT.


dat needs further explaining Master.

The O has a lot of bells and whistles and can do many things well enough and gives you a more comprehensive listing of features ... plus its anti-aliasing is darn good.

The V-Synth does very few things but what it does it does exceptionally well. I think Eric called it expressive. You've got to think JP8 on steriods with some really pearly bells and whistles thrown in for good measure.

The problem with it is that it is a programming nightmare whereas the O is really a programming dream ... in terms of getting to parameters and understanding what they are. The V is actually a very formidable beast and none of the presets do the unit justice straight out of the box.

Having fooled around alot with one, i understand why you might be put off by it but there is so much that it can do that is not highlighted in the presets on the machine.

get the O if you do not have a workstation and multitrack recorder (what no PC with s/w?) but if you want additional 'flavouring and embellishments' for sounds that you use in your projects, i'd choose the V.

Heck it's your money so you should really identify what you NEED rather then what is available first and then decide if you need it.

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 07, 2007 4:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just to add to my comments, I forgot to mention that the maximum polyphony for the V-synth GT is only 28 voices and that also depends on it's processor load, so it could be as little as 4 voices.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 11, 2007 10:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Eric, where did you hear that? That sounds rather... limited... :O
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 11, 2007 12:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Check it out for yourself - http://www.roland.com/products/en/V-Synth_GT/specs.html

And, it wouldn't surprise me that heavy users won't be getting that too often.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 12, 2007 4:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

oh yeah forgot abt dat little problem of the V.
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