Something must be done about Topic names

BasariStudios · Post by **BasariStudios** » Tue Jul 13, 2010 6:39 pm

1. If you know your MP3 (no i dont)
2. New Korg User (then welcome to the forums)
3. Big problem (well not my problem)
4. I need some Help (well i need too)
5. Style Works Full (should it be empty)
6. How can i edit Sound (by editing)
7. Korg PA800 (?yes, Korg PA800?)
8. Sampling (cookies or ice cream)
9. Is it possible to (no, its not)
10. Korg M3 (?) is there an M4?)
11. If you were Korg (i'd shoot my self)
...and so on...its annoying and pushes people away from actually reading
the topic...can people just use a Name that actually describes what they want?
Names like:
1. I dont want my girlfriend no more, whats the solution?
2. I need some Drugs, where do i buy them from?
e tc...

Thanks

ozy · Post by **ozy** » Tue Jul 13, 2010 7:58 pm

It was a really bad day, wasn't it, Nesrim?

In my humble experience,

a glass of some legal drug derived from grapes, especially chilled falanghina or fiano de avelino,

Works better than venting on synthesizer forums though...

BasariStudios · Post by **BasariStudios** » Tue Jul 13, 2010 9:09 pm

Lol Ozy, nah man, actually is a good day, best, a lot of my new
Gear came today...i was just saying, it will make our lifes easier.

drama1 · Post by **drama1** » Tue Jul 13, 2010 9:19 pm

Complaining about topic names?

You got to lighten up brother. This is a great forum.

kanthos · Post by **kanthos** » Tue Jul 13, 2010 10:54 pm

The forums will only ever be of average quality, with the few really good posts and discussions obscured by the inane topics and duplications, as long as those who are knowledgeable are content to spoonfeed anyone who has the brain cells to register. Some moderation, in the form of mods locking threads identified as duplicates and moving topics to the right forum (how people post questions nearly daily for one keyboard in another keyboard's forum is beyond me) would help too.

And yes, I know Sharp is really busy and Daz left recently, and this isn't intended to be a reflection on them.

But the main problem is the regulars make it ok for someone to come in, ask a stupid question, and get answers. I define a stupid question here as one that shouldn't be asked because the answer is readily available and the more recent person is only asking because they're lazy. I've even had times where I replied to a topic suggesting that since the answer's been discussed more than once, they should search for it and someone else has come along and answered the question anyway - not just linked them to previous topics (which is still spoonfeeding, IMO), but a full-blown answer, basically retyping what was already available.

I know this is hoping for too much, but I'd love to see newcomers to any technical forum be requested to read this when they register, and have a culture promoted among forum regulars that gently prevents people from getting away with laziness.

BasariStudios · Post by **BasariStudios** » Wed Jul 14, 2010 2:26 am

And the funniest of all is (has happened many times) the same question
is asked in 2 topics, one right on top of the other...imagine that.

pillbug · Post by **pillbug** » Wed Jul 14, 2010 5:18 am

Agreed, though I rather think girlfriends and drugs best found on other forums.

BruceL · Post by **BruceL** » Wed Jul 14, 2010 2:02 pm

lol.

i think english is not the primary language of a few posters. hence, the problem.

Synthoid · Post by **Synthoid** » Wed Jul 14, 2010 2:13 pm

kanthos wrote: the main problem is the regulars make it ok for someone to come in, ask a stupid question, and get answers. I define a stupid question here as one that shouldn't be asked because the answer is readily available and the more recent person is only asking because they're lazy.

Heaven forbid people could actually READ the manual first.

kanthos · Post by **kanthos** » Wed Jul 14, 2010 4:28 pm

If you're brand new to workstations or synths, the manual may not make much sense, so I understand that. It's when someone clearly hasn't checked something obvious, like asking how to do a pitch bend without looking for pitch bend, or, worse, when they find out that they need to use combi mode to do splits and layers and then ask for step by step instructions in great detail on how to do that.

snowbrow · Post by **snowbrow** » Wed Jul 14, 2010 5:30 pm

Dammit you're right Basari,

We need some new topic names; how about these

Pre-natal exercises for mountain sheep
Homebrewing for under 5s
Teach yourself ninjahood in 3 easy lessons

kanthos · Post by **kanthos** » Wed Jul 14, 2010 5:59 pm

That ninjahood topic exists, but like its namesake, it is so sneaky that you'll never find it

Shakil · Post by **Shakil** » Wed Jul 14, 2010 6:02 pm

This is common problem with all message boards. Good content management practices are required to overcome this problem. Doing this manually is very hard.

There are too many variables involved in how one word the subject line. Not everyone is good at making the topic specific or even recognizing the impact of a vague topic. Context and experience of the topic starter has a lot effect on how he/she words it. If I have been working on MIDI problem for past three hours on M3, my mind has a context of MIDI and M3. If I go to a general workstation message board and start a topic.... "Having problem with my keyboard for three hours..." It's pretty clear to ME what I am talking about.... but the readers will scratch their head.. which keyboard, what problem.. etc. If I post "need help with M3 MIDI setup to USB keyboard on Windows laptop"... readers will know the topic and will not need to look in if they can't help.

Automatic topic wording can help. If the system can provide a wizard style interface to build a topic line, that will be great. I have seen some systems where the system provides a search result before starting a new topic. The system searches words in my topic and shows be posts with those words that are already there. If this message board can be set up like that, it can reduce number of new duplicate topics.

Ultimate Dj · Post by **Ultimate Dj** » Wed Jul 14, 2010 7:16 pm

snowbrow wrote:Dammit you're right Basari,

We need some new topic names; how about these

Pre-natal exercises for mountain sheep
Homebrewing for under 5s
Teach yourself ninjahood in 3 easy lessons

ah the Ninjahood!

I'm already approved but it usually takes four lessons

I'm thinking of opening thread about how I dislike threads that talk about Thread Names. what do you think?

aelfo

Post by **Sharp** » Wed Jul 14, 2010 8:48 pm

Hi Guys.

To a point a pin has been stuck in the development of the forum for a while due to our CPU load on the server and our massive bandwidth usage. KORG Forums needs a dedicated server, not a shared server, so we have had to do things to keep resources down while plans and technical issues were sorted out.

A dedicated server is pretty expensive and since this is a non-profit website, well.... money doesn’t grow on trees and so a lot of discussions have had to take place backstage here.

Lots of progress has been made here on all this and soon we will be moving to our own server. When that happens development will return to full steam ahead again, and I would hope that we will also see the return of 250,000 + archived posts. This is very important information that once is back online, all newbies will be strongly advised to use the search engine again.

KORG Forums was always seen as a very technical website and we need to go back to being that again. The system worked in the past and there is no reason why it won't work again in the future.

In short the plan is.... Get the server issues solved, return all the archived posts, advise newbies to use the search engine again... and then start developing the forums full steam ahead. The download section is also going to change big time.

So hang in there guys. I've not dropped the ball at all here.

This is also your forum guys, so please feel free to suggest things you would like to see improved bearing in mind what I've just said above and what I've already got planned.

There's also nothing stopping you guys for starting some advanced and heavy technical threads either you know

Kind Regards
Sharp.