Korg Forums

RKfan · Posted: Sun Apr 08, 2012 12:27 pm Post subject: Did anyone beta test the editor?

Looks like there are a few release issues with the editor. Considering that quite a few of us volunteered (for free) to act as beta testers its a little sad that the Editor has been released in the state it has.

I think we would have spotted the screen resolution problem and some of the performance issues - but no-one contacted me. Did anyone on this forum get asked to beta test in the end??

AlchemistMusicStudio · Posted: Sun Apr 08, 2012 3:45 pm Post subject:

Silence must be heard... Silenced

_________________

http://www.youtube.com/user/AlchemistMusicStudio
http://www.myspace.com/remiplanet

Shakil · Posted: Sun Apr 08, 2012 4:02 pm Post subject:

RKfan... there is no screen resolution problem with the editor.....
_________________
Roland Fantom-G6 ARX1, Korg M3-m exb-Radias, Korg Z1-18v, Roland MC-808, Roland MC-909, Korg microKontrol.

AlchemistMusicStudio · Posted: Sun Apr 08, 2012 4:56 pm Post subject:

Optimal interface visibility is above 1600 x 900 (no scroll bar).
_________________

http://www.youtube.com/user/AlchemistMusicStudio
http://www.myspace.com/remiplanet

RKfan · Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2012 5:46 pm Post subject:

To clarify - on my set-up (with a pretty old monitor) at its highest resolution the editor runs off the bottom of the screen. As I have said in a different thread it means I need to get a new monitor in order to use the editor, and since I plan to get a new monitor in a month or so this will not be an issue. However a scroll bar on the RHS would be useful too - and save me a few quid.

My main point was that although lots of people volunteered as beta testers it seems that our offer was not taken up. And since I do testing as part of my job, its an opportunity missed.

When I get some time this week - have the week off I will have a chance to really put the editor through its paces.

GregC · Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2012 6:01 pm Post subject:

Chrutil · Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2012 6:06 pm Post subject:

SeedyLee · Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2012 12:32 am Post subject:

Chrutil makes some good points. The purpose of beta testing is usually to find critical bugs that prevent the software from operating within its designed specifications. Unexpected crashes, lost data, UI controls that don't work are in the realm of the beta tester. Potential usability issues and general design flaws are not. By the time beta testing commences, the design phases have been long completed and the product is usually close to shipping, making radical changes infeasible.

Beta testing is like the Quality-Assurance tester on the iPad production line. Their job is to make sure that each iPad turns on, that the screen works and is legible and that the panels and chassis fit together within the specified tolerance. It'a not their job to report that the UI is outdated, that a higher-spec processor should be used and there is no expandable memory.

I am as disappointed with the usability of the editor as many of you and see it as a lost opportunity to create something brilliant. But int his case, by the time it got to beta testing, I suspect that ship had already sailed.
_________________
Current Equipment:
Korg Kronos 2 88, Reface CS, Roland JV-1080, TE OP1, Moog Subsequent 37, Korg ARP Odyssey, Allen & Heath Zed 18, Adam F5, MOTU MIDI Express XT, Lexicon MX200 & MPX1, Yamaha QY700, Yamaha AW16G, Tascam DP008ex, Zoom H6, Organelle, Roland J6 & JU06A

Previous: Triton LE 61/Sampling/64MB/4GB SCSI, MS2000BR, Kronos 1 61, Monotribe, NanoKontrol, NanoKeys, Kaossilator II, Casio HT3000, Roland VP-03, Reface DX, Novation Mininova, MPC One

mathieumaes · Senior Member Joined: 10 Dec 2011 Posts: 430

jahrome · Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2012 10:05 am Post subject:

michelkeijzers · Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2012 10:10 am Post subject:

It depends on the policy or NDA (generally; not Korg specific).

Some NDAs define that beta testers should not even mention they ARE testers, some NDAs define that they cannot specify when /what is the test scope and some NDAs define that information from the test (results)/details can be published.
_________________

Developer of the free PCG file managing application for most Korg workstations: PCG Tools, see https://www.kronoshaven.com/pcgtools/

RKfan · Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2012 11:23 am Post subject:

I wasnt complaining - just curious since we were asked to volunteer - just wondered if anyone was picked. What I was not asking is "was this piece of crap beta tested" - this was not my intention at all............. (misinterpreted again)....

Anyway I have had a bit more of a play with it and - since its free - can't really complain with what we were given for nothing.

Two things I think are great is (1) the ability to copy a backup of my current set-up and (2) I can write .ins files for Sonar.

michelkeijzers · Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2012 12:06 pm Post subject:

Well for nothing is not really true.

Part of the price of the Kronos paid is for developing the editor (if one uses it or not).

So it should have at least the minimum 'conditions' of what the software supposes to do.
_________________

Developer of the free PCG file managing application for most Korg workstations: PCG Tools, see https://www.kronoshaven.com/pcgtools/

jimknopf · Platinum Member Joined: 17 Jan 2011 Posts: 3374

It is completely up to Korg if they use a broader field of betatesters or not (be sure they have some they know for long). And we will never know if any betatester gave them the appropriate feedback: that this software may work relatively stable (not crashing all the time), but anyway just isn't up to the task of speeding up workflow in a smart way.

It looks to me rather like a big parameter mirror tool, than helping musicians making music with the Kronos, and recording it into software DAWs.
Wasn't that the original purpose of developing this software???
_________________
Kronos 73 - Moog Voyager RME - Moog LP TE - Behringer Model D - Prophet 6 - Roland Jupiter Xm - Rhodes Stage 73 Mk I - Elektron Analog Rytm MkII - Roland TR-6s - Cubase 12 Pro + Groove Agent 5