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A month or two ago, I couldn't string together more than 15 seconds of anything, and I now I can get to a 1 minute and half with a few rough edges. So I'm going in the right kind of direction <br><br>Anyway the deal is, anyone who is more advanced can offer me some tips/critique, and anyone less advanced can ask me questions about what I was up to.<br><br>Daz.
<br><br>I was thinking about you and using the Triton/Karma sequencers. When I was in a band, actually playing music, I used a Yamaha W7 workstation. This was the grandaddy of the Motif that was made at the same as the Trinity. Its much like the Triton in some ways (although not nearly as good). At first I tried to make sequenced music using the sequencer on that, and found it very difficult. Then I got my Triton and tried again with the sequencer of that, still no great progress 
Then I bought some VA synths and found that I really needed to get a PC sequencer to control all this stuff, and I bought a copy of Cubase. Wow, then it all took off, 'cos I then only had difficulty with the music not with the sequencing. I am not saying the Triton/Karma sequencer is bad or anything, that really would be contraversial But I found using a PC sequencer about a million times easier and it made the whole process of sequencing so much more "visual" and immediate. It might just be my way of thinking about these things.<br><br>I would recommend even checking out something like Cubasis 3.0 (which I use on my laptop). The Go version is about £30 ($45?), and even that I find far better for me than the Triton sequencer. Of course you'll need a MIDI interface, maybe a Midiman Midisport 2x2 (2 ins and 2 outs). That'll hook up to your USB port, and cost you about £50 ($75??). <br><br>I have used my Triton in Combi with the "to host" cable connected to my Dell Latitude laptop, and Cubasis doing the sequencing duties. I found this a really great a productive little setup. In fact, coincidentally, if you look at the box that Cubasis comes in, the picture on the front is of a guy using a Triton with a Dell laptop So it must be the right thing to do, right ;D Cubasis also comes with a rather good manual, and a nifty little song construction kit, which contains a bunch of midi patterns similar to the gift that Sharpy recently gave us.<br><br>If I remember rightly, Sharp actually uses the sequencers on the Triton/Trinity to great effect, so it must be good, but probably only in the right hands <br><br>LOL, I am not ashamed to admit that I use technology as a crutch...<br><br>Daz.<br><br>Here is a pure Triton version of my twiddlings, ported from the original stuff I was doing in Reason :<br><br>http://www.irishacts.com/support/tutori ... g<br><br>I used GM2 sounds just to make life easier. I used the St BPM Delay to replace the 2 tempo synched delays I used in Reason, its a drop in replacement. I often use Reason for building "prototype" songs like this and then export it all to MIDI and then build up properly in Cubase or Logic using my hardware synths, but I've never tried going from Reason to the Triton sequencer before. Thought I'd give it a whirl see what the results were like. The Triton sequencer, sounds so tight in comparison. <br><br>Daz.<br> <br> <br><br>Yum ! I like that demo2 a lot. Great to hear all the individual bits broken out, that really helps so much. Cheers, this is tops !<br><br>So what was your EQ secret on the first mp3 ?<br><br>Daz.<br>Sharp wrote:Here's another demo based on Techno and Trance.<br>This style of music does not depend on the drums for anything. They are usually only background tracks. The Bass, rifts and single note pad sounds are what carry this style along.<br><br>http://www.irishacts.com/support/tutori ... br><br>LOL. I might actually use what I made here in a song. It's kind of cool.<br>
<br><br>Those are really good. While I liked demo2, I really liked the chill-out piece.<br><br>Separating the sections out really does help quite a lot. I need to rethink some of my composing techniques, I think. A lot of times, in an effort to make the pieces more interesting, or more complex, I'll layer on a LOT of tracks. But listening to the demos makes me think that if done right, only a few tracks are really necessary.<br><br>Like the bluesman told the up-and-comer, "You play too many notes. You need to play more of the spaces between the notes."<br><br>One thing I definitely notice is that I'm lacking when it comes to using the effects/eq correctly. The demos have a nice, crisp, sound, and I'm finding that my pieces tend to get a little muddy. I'm thinking that I'm not using eq as well as I might (of course, my M-1 speakers are bass heavy to begin with, and to a certain extent muddy everything up a little anyway).<br>delerium wrote:These are awesome tips Sharp, thanks. 8) I'll have to try this in more detail tonight.
<br><br>Its actually sound I programmed in the Reason Subtraktor synth fed through some light distortion. It is two detuned triangle waves on the two oscillators and the noise oscillator mixed in there too. <br><br>Daz.<br>Sharp wrote:Daz, in the demo reverse-daz2.mp3, your bring in a sound around 22 seconds into the demo. What is it ?. Heck, I really like it.
