How do I reverse the faders?

ccmacdon · Post by **ccmacdon** » Tue Jul 19, 2016 7:59 pm

I have an external Hammond Organ module that I want to control with the Kronos.. the faders are mapped to the drawbars but they are working backwards. Is it possible to reverse them.. 0 at the top (back) and 127 at the bottom (front). I looked on the controller page in the combi but couldn't find a way to do this.

Thanks,
Craig

SanderXpander · Post by **SanderXpander** » Tue Jul 19, 2016 9:14 pm

Pretty sure you can't but often you can switch the response in the module.

Post by **Sharp** » Tue Jul 19, 2016 9:35 pm

Sounds like there's somthing funky going on with the Hammond Organ and that's where you should be looking to solve this.

CC# values are universal and pretty much standard in how they work.

however, there are still devices by a company called Midi Solutions that can be purhcased to solve all sorts of very odd problems. This includes a box that can flip CC vales upside down.

Regards
Sharp.

ccmacdon · Post by **ccmacdon** » Wed Jul 20, 2016 1:46 am

No there is nothing wrong with the module.. The reversing of the faders to control a drawbar organ is most often done in the controller (I confirmed this with the designer of the module). the interesting thing is that the Kronos does this internally for it's own CX3 engine.. Internally it's reversed and apparently changed to values 0 to 8 (corresponding to the Hammond Drawbars), but it still sends 0-127 externally and it's the reverse of the way it needs to work.

If I can't do this in the Kronos, I will need to use a midi solutions box or something like that.. This would be disappointing given the fact that the Kronos is otherwise such a good controller AND it reverses the function of the drawbar internally for its own built in hammond engine.

ccmacdon · Post by **ccmacdon** » Fri Jul 22, 2016 3:23 pm

I'm going to bump this post because I would really like to get a definative response on this.. Every new controller, that I know of, can reverse the faders to act like Drawbars for organ modules/VST's etc.. The Kronos is supposed to be a great controller (especially given it's great set list functions), and it has an organ engine and reverses the presets internally for the CX3.. So, you'd think that it could reverse the presets for external midi control of an organ module..!?!

IS anyone aware of a way to reverse the drawbars on the Kronos (other than with a midi solutions box)..? It cannot be done in the module (I exchanged emails with the designer who reiterated that this should be done in the controller).

Thanks
Craig

SanderXpander · Post by **SanderXpander** » Fri Jul 22, 2016 5:04 pm

I don't think it can be done. I find it strange that the module designer is so insistent because all of my software B's can do it just fine.

ccmacdon · Post by **ccmacdon** » Fri Jul 22, 2016 6:59 pm

I am not aware of any Hardware Hammond clone (module) that can do this. On the other hand, I know that both the Novation Impulse and the Roland PCR series controllers come with controller "templates" for organ (B4) that reverse the faders. Again, I think that most controllers with 9 faders can do this.