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Reuben Platinum Member
Joined: 31 Jan 2007 Posts: 1614 Location: Sydney, Australia
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Posted: Wed Jan 29, 2020 3:18 am Post subject: |
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Sound editing is not really covered in the manual. Best way to learn is by using your ears plus trial and error! But to get you started its best to copy a sound across to a User slot and start experimenting.
Say your sound has just 2 Oscillators (Sound, Menu, Basic, see Oscillator count). Change the Oscillator count to 6 on your new sound then copy those two oscillators (using the dropdown menu) 1 to 3 , 2 to 4, 1 to 5 and 2 to 6.
Limit the velocity ranges (Menu, Basic, Vel/Key zone) to say 1-60 for Osc 1 and 2, 61 to 85 for Osc 3 and 4, 86-127 for Osc 5 and 6 (change both the Velocity Zone and the Scaled Velocity values).
Now check filtering (Menu, Filter, Filter A Frequency) say it was 15 for Osc 1. Then try 10 for Osc 1, 15 for Osc 3 and 30 for Osc 5. Do the same for Osc 2, 4,and 6. (You can listen to the effect by Solo-ing the Osc using the drop down menu) but bear in mind you need to hit the key within the velocity range to hear it - or better still change the range after you are happy with the sound.
This is just to get you started - there is a lot more you can do. For instance if you like the brightening for higher velocities but think it sounds a bit thin then add some Osc EQ.
It might seem a bit daunting but experimentation is the key to success. _________________ Free SoundFonts: https://sites.google.com/site/soundfonts4u/
Free high quality Grand Piano for Korg Pa: http://www.korgforums.com/forum/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=113029 |
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danevogel18
Joined: 25 Jan 2020 Posts: 5
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Posted: Wed Jan 29, 2020 6:23 pm Post subject: |
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Very good explications, somehow I read this after i find that oscilators are linked with amp, freq and more stuff ) bad luck, but i learn new things, and you said something interesting with amp freq, as i saw, osc 1 is the higher, and 16 for me, is the lowest one.
I took a piano from Pa3 converted into pa2/800 and good things here, 12 osc level for piano, pianissimo wasn`t the best so my ideea is next.
I did just the piano itself in 16 osc. Want to add later some virtual layers, for FX.
Have another question, as I see, the new 16 osc piano, somewhere between pianissimo and mediu is some kind of instant volume up, and i don`t know what to check, osc volumes are all desc, Freq, and AMP are desc also. More exactly, if i press the same key with more and more intensity, somewhere at midpoint of the touch senzor the piano sound more louder. |
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siebenhirter Platinum Member
Joined: 13 Oct 2011 Posts: 1854
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Posted: Fri Feb 07, 2020 11:27 pm Post subject: sf2 import for Pa3x |
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Reuben wrote: | Just to allay any confusion here - the Pa3x cannot import soundfonts (while the Pa4x/1000/700 can import some soundfonts successfully - depending on their complexity).... |
Also with Pa3x it is easy to use sf2-samples. With freeware "Polyphone" load sf2 and import it to format "sfz". Importing creates a folder/subfolder containing all samples in "wav"-format that you can import with Pa3x.
Description of parameters for editing the samples are found in sfz-files - rename these files into direct readable textfile (suffix .txt). _________________ kind regards
- siebenhirter, austria -
Interesting facts about styles and stylePlayer functions can be found at http: www.elmarherz.de |
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Reuben Platinum Member
Joined: 31 Jan 2007 Posts: 1614 Location: Sydney, Australia
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KONNECTORAS Full Member
Joined: 21 May 2010 Posts: 119 Location: Greece, Athens
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Posted: Wed May 27, 2020 6:07 pm Post subject: |
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Reuben wrote: | Thats interesting information and good to know. I'm familiar with Polyphone and in fact I used it to normalise and loop the Yamaha C5 samples. |
Hi there!
Some fabulus job here!
Have you ever tried the combination Wavelab-Samplerobot(+Waverobot)+Awave Studio?
You can do the whole sequence of tasks in highly pro level. |
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Reuben Platinum Member
Joined: 31 Jan 2007 Posts: 1614 Location: Sydney, Australia
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Bill1983 Junior Member
Joined: 06 Nov 2017 Posts: 93
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Posted: Tue Sep 01, 2020 4:48 am Post subject: Many, many thanks |
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Reuben wrote: | It seems some of us are not used to loading new sounds so I have now included instructions in the first post. I hope this helps. Just remember to backup first then all will be well. |
Working with multis is no small task.
THANK YOU FOR SHARING! _________________ PA4x, PA500, NI Komplete Kontrol S88 MK2, Sonar Platinum, Ableton Live 10 Standard, NI Komplete12 Ultimate, EWQL Libraries, Nektar Impact LX88, Focusrite Scarlett 6i6 Gen2, Studiologic MP-117 Pedalboard |
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keyboardist2000
Joined: 18 Aug 2020 Posts: 20
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Posted: Fri Dec 04, 2020 5:06 am Post subject: |
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Hello, i just download this piano sounds and it just sounded really great . Thank you so much for your effort sir!!
But i just wondering 1 thing, so you see, the piano sounded really great as i play the note higher but as i play lower, it sounded kinda weird like some cracky sound(i dont know how to explain). So, am i doing wrong here or do i need to do something? But overall it sound really great!, the only thing i have problem with is the low note sounds. |
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Reuben Platinum Member
Joined: 31 Jan 2007 Posts: 1614 Location: Sydney, Australia
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Mlorenz
Joined: 04 Dec 2016 Posts: 5 Location: Toledo
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Posted: Thu Feb 18, 2021 4:57 pm Post subject: |
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These samples are great! Many thanks for such a masterful job. I was playing these last night on my PA4X and wow, I thought I was sitting inside the Yamaha C5 piano. Very cool! _________________ Mike Lorenz |
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Rob Sherratt Platinum Member
Joined: 16 Apr 2007 Posts: 4590
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Reuben Platinum Member
Joined: 31 Jan 2007 Posts: 1614 Location: Sydney, Australia
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Ph4nt0m
Joined: 28 Nov 2020 Posts: 5 Location: India
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Posted: Wed Jun 02, 2021 3:43 am Post subject: |
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Thank you so much Sir. The samples are wonderful.
Could you also guide and if it's feasible post a tutorial on how we create our custom sounds on Korg Pa series ?? I am very new to the Korg keyboards and have some basic idea of sound design on the PC and using software synths .But how do we do it on the Korg ??
Will be really grateful if you could kindly explain or point to some resources in creating our own sounds . Going through the manual but could really use some guidance
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Reuben Platinum Member
Joined: 31 Jan 2007 Posts: 1614 Location: Sydney, Australia
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Posted: Wed Jun 02, 2021 6:39 am Post subject: |
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I'm glad you like it. These C5 Grand samples were available on the net under Creative Commons Attribution 3.0 (Basically no restrictions to use). The trick was to get them in a size and format compatible to the Korg. I did a lot of sound editing and Antony Sharmann helped with the conversion to Korg.
It is no small task starting with your own samples. I suggest you get comfortable with editing some of the factory sounds to get familiar with what is going on before looking to import samples - which is way more complicated.
There are a few videos on Youtube about editing the Pa4x sounds and you will find the other models (Pa3x/700/1000) are very similar in operation.
Get familiar with Oscillator basics (Osc count, copying across from other sounds and things like filters and Amps to modify the sound). Provided you save your work to a User Sound you will not upset the factory sounds - but do a Save All before starting as a backup.
John _________________ Free SoundFonts: https://sites.google.com/site/soundfonts4u/
Free high quality Grand Piano for Korg Pa: http://www.korgforums.com/forum/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=113029 |
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tonytequila
Joined: 09 Jan 2014 Posts: 15
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Posted: Sun Dec 12, 2021 12:35 pm Post subject: |
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hi folks, just hoping to get some help with this I don't have a lot of space left on my pa600 but need a fairly full sounding piano for Christmas carols, at a charity fund raiser, if anyone could point me in the right direction I would be very grateful, thanks in advance. _________________ Thanks Tony, |
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