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Bachus Platinum Member
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Posted: Tue May 04, 2021 6:54 pm Post subject: 73 key version? |
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Why would you make a 73 C-C version instead of an E-E version?
I just dont understand that desigen, could anyone explain to me why he would want a C-C 73 keys keyboard? _________________ Korg Kronos 2/88 , Genos, Mainstage3 +VSTsu, ipad pro, GSi Gemini, Roland Integra 7, Jupiter Xm, Yamaha motif XS rack, Ketron SD90.
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nitecrawler Platinum Member
Joined: 22 Mar 2007 Posts: 979 Location: from a mile high to the the AZ desert
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Posted: Sat May 08, 2021 2:12 pm Post subject: Re: 73 key version? |
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Bachus wrote: | Why would you make a 73 C-C version instead of an E-E version?
I just dont understand that desigen, could anyone explain to me why he would want a C-C 73 keys keyboard? |
Good point. Both my PA3Xle and my Oasys are E to G 76 key setups, which I find perfectly fine. Dropping down to 73 from 76 leaves you with E-E or C-C options, but I do not see how being E or C centric would be a deal breaker. What are your concerns? _________________ http://www.soundclick.com/bands/default.cfm?bandID=807494
Montage M7, Pa5x76, Nautilus, PA3Xle, Oasys 76, Mini-Moog, EMU Audity 2000, Motion Sound KBR 3D amp, Presonus and Reaper DAW W/Tannoy Reveal 501A powered monitors |
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burningbusch Approved Merchant
Joined: 30 Jan 2005 Posts: 1203 Location: Seattle
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Posted: Sat May 08, 2021 4:40 pm Post subject: |
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The Korg M3 has a C-C 73 note. Some people much prefer the layout as it lends itself better to piano music especially when using octave +/- (which is now on the Nautilus).
Honestly, the 73-note "standard" came into existence largely from the Rhodes piano, and Rhodes shortened the keyboard because of practical limitations of the tine.
Busch. _________________ Kronos 73, Nautilus 61, Vox Continental 73, Monologue, Yamaha Montage 8, Rhodes Suitcase, Yamaha VL-1, Roland V-Synth, Yamaha AvantGrand, Minimoog Model D, Studio Electronics Omega 8, CSS, Spitfire, VSL, LASS, Sample Modeling, Ivory, Komplete 12, Spectrasonics, Cubase, Pro Tools, etc.
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nitecrawler Platinum Member
Joined: 22 Mar 2007 Posts: 979 Location: from a mile high to the the AZ desert
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Posted: Sat May 08, 2021 6:37 pm Post subject: |
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burningbusch wrote: | The Korg M3 has a C-C 73 note. Some people much prefer the layout as it lends itself better to piano music especially when using octave +/- (which is now on the Nautilus).
Honestly, the 73-note "standard" came into existence largely from the Rhodes piano, and Rhodes shortened the keyboard because of practical limitations of the tine.
Busch. | .
I did not know that re: the Rhodes.
Interesting that that limitation did not seem to limit the performers on the Rhodes from recording a lot of memorable music. _________________ http://www.soundclick.com/bands/default.cfm?bandID=807494
Montage M7, Pa5x76, Nautilus, PA3Xle, Oasys 76, Mini-Moog, EMU Audity 2000, Motion Sound KBR 3D amp, Presonus and Reaper DAW W/Tannoy Reveal 501A powered monitors |
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dimitris Platinum Member
Joined: 31 Jul 2002 Posts: 1661 Location: Greece
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Posted: Sat May 08, 2021 8:03 pm Post subject: |
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I believe the 73keys version would be the best choice for arranger keyboards and 76keys for synth workstations.
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Dimitris _________________ KORG PA5X 76 + PaAS - KORG PA1000 (NEW) -KORG NAUTILUS 73 (NEW) - KORG EK-50 - KAWAI VPC1 |
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burningbusch Approved Merchant
Joined: 30 Jan 2005 Posts: 1203 Location: Seattle
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Posted: Sat May 08, 2021 10:10 pm Post subject: |
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nitecrawler wrote: |
I did not know that re: the Rhodes.
Interesting that that limitation did not seem to limit the performers on the Rhodes from recording a lot of memorable music. |
Agreed on the memorable music.
The Rhodes 88 was reluctantly made. There are no tonebars past E. The lower notes often have serious tuning issues. On the upper end, the tines become ridiculously short and are extremely difficult to tune.
Busch. _________________ Kronos 73, Nautilus 61, Vox Continental 73, Monologue, Yamaha Montage 8, Rhodes Suitcase, Yamaha VL-1, Roland V-Synth, Yamaha AvantGrand, Minimoog Model D, Studio Electronics Omega 8, CSS, Spitfire, VSL, LASS, Sample Modeling, Ivory, Komplete 12, Spectrasonics, Cubase, Pro Tools, etc.
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Bachus Platinum Member
Joined: 23 Apr 2006 Posts: 3127
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Posted: Tue May 11, 2021 7:57 pm Post subject: |
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dimitris wrote: | I believe the 73keys version would be the best choice for arranger keyboards and 76keys for synth workstations.
Regards,
Dimitris |
I have never seen much use for 73 in either workstations nor in arranger..
I would allways go for 76 keys e-g. _________________ Korg Kronos 2/88 , Genos, Mainstage3 +VSTsu, ipad pro, GSi Gemini, Roland Integra 7, Jupiter Xm, Yamaha motif XS rack, Ketron SD90.
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nitecrawler Platinum Member
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Posted: Fri May 28, 2021 11:48 pm Post subject: |
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Well, after having the 73 Nautilus up in the studio across from my 76 Oasys; I would say that having a keyboard 73note that is set from C to C poses no real disadvantage from my perspective.
What is amazing is the quality of the acoustic piano samples used in the Nautilus verses those in the Oasys. Of course the samples are close to 15 years more advanced. Also the keybed in the Nautilus feels real good to me when playing. I think I will keep the Oasys up in the studio for access to its Karma capabilities; which I like. That said, I am looking forward to diving into the arpeggiators and scene setups in the Nautilus as well. _________________ http://www.soundclick.com/bands/default.cfm?bandID=807494
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danmusician Platinum Member
Joined: 08 Apr 2009 Posts: 875 Location: Southern PA
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Posted: Mon May 31, 2021 3:47 pm Post subject: |
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Personally, I don't understand why Korg is doing 73 keys when it seems like other companies are doing 76. My Korg 01/W Pro was a 76 key. It was E-G. I was pleasantly surprised when I bought the M3-73 that it was C-C. I'm disappointed that my Kronos 73 is E-E.
In my years playing the 01 and the K73, I am constantly wishing I had more lower notes. I almost never reach for higher notes that aren't there.
It seems that when Korg does a non-weighted, synth type keybed, they go C-C, which is basically a 61 key with one more octave. When they go with a weighted keybed, then they go E-E. _________________ Kronos 2 88, Kronos Classic 73, PX-5S, Kronos 2 61, Roli Seaboard Rise 49 |
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