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PA4X drawbar Organ - Q for new owners...

 
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karmathanever
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 07, 2015 2:54 pm    Post subject: PA4X drawbar Organ - Q for new owners... Reply with quote

Anyone who now owns a PA4X please help me out...

I am looking at the latest manual and now freaking out that Korg have not improved the tone-wheel organ emulation.
Where are the Vibrato and Chorus (C1,2,3 & V1,2,3) controls?

Previously they have only been available as an effect (Organ Vib/Chorus), but this is far from good enough if you want nice "Hammond B3" emulation functionality.
This means that you need 2 effects, one for Rotary and the other for Organ Vib/Chorus - so what about some reverb etc..etc... ????????????

Please tell me I've missed something here!!!!

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PostPosted: Sat Nov 07, 2015 3:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was thinking the same a few days back, looking though the manual I could see no reference to the Chorus/Vib Settings and if you cannot get C3 a serious omission it is.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 08, 2015 1:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes it's strange isn't it - most of the important functions are there but I agree - C3 - i like instant access to that.

Oh well - we'll see what happens - looks like I'll have to keep my Roland VR09!!!

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 08, 2015 1:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

karmathanever wrote:
Yes it's strange isn't it - most of the important functions are there but I agree - C3 - i like instant access to that.

Oh well - we'll see what happens - looks like I'll have to keep my Roland VR09!!!

Pete Very Happy


You can program user DRAWBAR sounds with C3 on, right?
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 08, 2015 1:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The new U-Vibe effect looks interesting ...

U-Vibe
Modeled on the most famous chorus/vibrato pedal effect unit. This effect
simulates a rotating speaker and produces a wonderfully seductive and
‘watery’ tone. Interestingly enough, the guy responsible for this great pedal
is also responsible for the birth of the KORG Nuvibe and Valve Reactor
Technology.
d Speed [Hz] 1…100 Sets the speed of the U-Vibe effect
Src Off…Tempo Selects a modulation source for the U-Vibe effect
Amt –20.00…
+20.00
Sets the modulation amount of teh U-Vibe effect
g Depth 0…100 Sets the depth of the U-Vibe effect
Src Off…Tempo Selects the modulation source of the LFO modulation
depth
Amt –100…+100 Sets the modulation amount of the LFO modulation
depth
Mic 0…100 Set the microphone level
Src Off…Tempo Selects the modulation source of the LFO modulation
depth
Amt –100…+100 Sets the modulation amount of the LFO modulation
depth
h Wet/Dry Dry,
1:99…99:1,
Wet
Balance between the wet and dry signal
Src Off…Tempo See DMS (Dynamic Modulation Source)
Amt –100…+100 Amount of modulation source


I couldn't find this effect in the PA3X docs
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 08, 2015 3:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Rick

Hadn't seen this one!!!
It's fascinating - shame there is not much of a description of it.

I am still wondering how I can, on my new (planned) PA4X, play a style with UPPER1 as a drawbar organ, have instant rotary speaker (per Leslie) instant vibrato/chorus control plus still have some reverb.

There may be a simple way but I can't figure it right now....
I know you can control the C1,2,3 & V1,2,3 (FX) with the joystick-Y BUT I still need a minimum of 3 FX - Chorus/Vibrato, Rotary and Reverb for the UPPER1

Hmmmm...

Must try the U-Vibe though - I'm curious now!!!

Pete Very Happy
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Paolo@Korg
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 12, 2015 10:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Pete,

The Drawbar presets we prepared usually include these effects:

- IFX: Amp Simulator
- MFX2: Speaker Simulator/Overdrive
- MFX1: Reverb

or:

- IFX: Speaker Simulator/Overdrive
- MFX2: Organ Vibrato/Chorus
- MFX1: Reverb

or any variation you like. The MFX2 is used as an additional IFX. There are several effects that can be used to create a convincing organ sound.

Paolo
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 12, 2015 12:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks Paolo

Pete
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 16, 2015 2:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hey Pete! Check out my new sig lines Wink

Thank you for helping me get my priorities straight!

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CX3: Check
Awesome Sounds: Check
Karma: Check
Plus SO much more!

I'll keep the PA600 to use as an arranger engine to drive the Kronos2 Wink
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 16, 2015 2:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sent PM Very Happy
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