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Is there a possibility to shift RPPR melodic pattern tonality according to a key pressed on a keyboard?
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If you mean like an arp, no. RPPR just triggers patterns as is.
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Thanks, another addition to wish list..
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Aziz1008 wrote:Is there a possibility to shift RPPR melodic pattern tonality according to a key pressed on a keyboard?
Yes. Assign the same pattern to as many keys as you like. On the RPPR SETUP page, there is a SHIFT box, for adjusting the pitch of the pattern, per key.
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Mike Conway wrote:
Aziz1008 wrote:Is there a possibility to shift RPPR melodic pattern tonality according to a key pressed on a keyboard?
Yes. Assign the same pattern to as many keys as you like. On the RPPR SETUP page, there is a SHIFT box, for adjusting the pitch of the pattern, per key.
That could be workable but wouldn't you have to press one of the stop keys first befor triggering the next pattern? Otherwise you would have the same pattern playing different pitches simultaneously and out of sync with each other. I guess setting mode to manual and holding the key would take care of that problem.

Oh why can't there just be a simple arp.
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Bald Eagle wrote:That could be workable but wouldn't you have to press one of the stop keys first befor triggering the next pattern? Otherwise you would have the same pattern playing different pitches simultaneously and out of sync with each other. I guess setting mode to manual and holding the key would take care of that problem.
You answered your own question. Yes, use MANUAL. I recorded a bass line in the sequencer and used PUT TO PATTERN to assign it to RPPR. Works like a charm and I can sequence what I want.

I agree that programmable Triton type Arps would be nice, but for basic patterns, KARMA has them. You can use a slider for octave range, just like a regular arp. It's worth checking out if you haven't.
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Thank you Mike! That's great. It seems I overlooked it. I want to create a bass line similar to Depeche Mode's in "Waiting for the night". There's also great Windows plugin called Phrazor. It can have 128 patterns assigned to keyboard and shifted to a pressed key. You can even play cords with your sequences. It's a pity it is abandonware now.
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Aziz, you can do all of that with Karma. If you have custom patterns (i.e. things that are not arpeggio's) you'd have to dish our 200 $ for the Karma software that lets you create your own GEs. But it's not complicated - if you have the patterns as a MIDI sequence you can directly import it into Karma and create a custom GE. It's even automatically change the chord type in that pattern (say you have a A major pattern and you play an A minor chord; Karma can alter your pattern so that it becomes minor - it'll lower the third for you!).

Documentation on how to do this with the karma software can be found here:
http://www.karma-lab.com/karmasoft/kk/f ... _To_GE.pdf
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Yes, I'll definately buy Karma software, as soon as my eBay income lets me to.) RPPR shift works great, you don't have to hold it as you can stop other keys by pressing RPPR stop key before shifting it. Or simply press playing key again to stop it.
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Correct. But using Karma is easier:
* you don't have to explicitly stop a pattern: as soon as you hit a new chord, Karma folows. You can quantize it so Karma switches by measure, half measure, quarter etc
* you can set Karma stop/start buttons on the control surface in case you need/want to switch the GE on of off
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