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Vocoding

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Can someone please explain to me how to use vocoding on the M3? I own an M3 61 and I am old. I need step by step instructions.

Should I purchase an M3 tutorial video? I love the sounds but cannot seem to follow the manual. Do I need a radias board for vocoding?

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Not too sure how to do vocoding on the M3 without looking at the manual.

You do not need the Radias board for vocoding as the M3 already has a vocoder. That said, the Radias board would give you a better vocoder.
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Post by DrWho »

I haven't purchased the vid. tutorial for the M3, but I did for the Triton Studio. So if you feel overwhelmed or that the M3 is complicated - well it is and the vids. would probably be a good idea :)
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Post by xmlguy »

You could start by trying the following programs:

F125 Vocoder Basic (Mic In=2) Vocal/Airy
F126 Vocoder Basic Shift=-2 Vocal/Airy

If you need step-by-step instructions, you bought the wrong synth for vocoding. The R3 would probably be much easier for you to use for vocoding, because nearly everything you would want is easily accessible on the front panel for the 8 vocoder programs it has as presets. The R3 vocoder is also better than the M3 vocoder effect, unless you have the EXB-Radias board. Perhaps the EXB-Radias board would also be easier, because there is Vocoder page in the M3 editor.

Otherwise, you'll probably be on your own learning the details of the M3 vocoder because it is such a specific topic and you'll really need to know how it works to get much use out of it. A good start would be to download the Operations Guide, Parameter Guide, and the Editor Operations Manual, then search for "vocoder" in the PDFs. The vocoder is described in detail on page 515 of the Parameter Guide. It is an insert effect, so you'll also need to know add an insert effect to an existing voices. On the R3, you can just press the VOCODER button on any voice to try it, or press 1-8 under the Vocoder bank.
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Thanks So Much

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Wow, thanks everyone for your input. I just really enjoy the M3 even though I am not a real keyboard player. It has great sounds and programs I am using. I just want to understand it better. Your input is so valuable to me.
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Post by Voltan »

without the radias expansion you can use a vocoder IFX (look in the "double" category)
there are some M3 vocoder in the last OS update (read instructions that come with the files)
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Post by stumppi »

Can this be done with M3 ? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iTfw1YWy ... re=related

Because I don't know can you put vocoder as effect in M3...
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Post by Voltan »

yes, this can be done
M3 has a vocoder IFX in the "double" category
EXB-Radias has a better vocoder ;)
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Post by stumppi »

How exactly those vocoders are different? (radias' and M3's)
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hours of digging....and finally!!

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I felt it my duty to post a reply to the questions about the M3 vocoder. After much digging and tweaking I have finally discovered how to set up the M3's vocoder. It is so ridiculously easy, yet so damn difficult to find due to lack of direction from Korg.

Here goes:

Step 1. Set up mic in GLOBAL / AUDIO IN. You may need to play around with this until you get it but when you have it you should hear yourself speaking through the mic. Be sure to save (Write) your settings.

Step 2. Go to PROG, and to bank I-E.... (I think is is around 14 or so.) Vocoder. There are a few different ones so try em all out. It is now simply a case of ensuring the 'use global settings' box is ticked in the man page.
Speak into the mic and play different chords on the keybed at the same time. VOILA!

If you want to use vocoder in SEQ mode, simply write the changes to the program or save it to your own prog, hold ENTER and press the SEQ REC button. Program will be entered into the SEQ for use.

Simple as that, took me ages to figure out though. Hope this helps.
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M3 Vocoding

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Yes this indeed helps! Great research.
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vocoding the vocoder

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Glad it helps, I'm off now to get the EXB-RADIAS for some more confused hours of head scratching fun. Any thoughts on the EXB-RADIAS ir the RADIAS R....are the 'knobs' worth the extra cash?
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Radias

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I had a Radias and it was cool but sold it. I have a Virus Ti Polar and am thinking of installing the Radias board in my M3.
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How is the Virus? Strongly considering the same route (radias exp. board and virus)
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Virus & M3

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I think the Virus is outstanding. You can basically create any type of sound that is possible in the human race. There is nothing this device will not do. I am having a great time with it even though I am not a true board player. I can take basic chord structures or even notes and produce unbelievable sound tracks, both analog and digital. Combine the Virus and the M3 you can produce everything you could ever want. The Virus also is a midi controller for Ableton Live.

I recommend it strongly.
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