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st1lgar
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Korg TR61

Post by st1lgar »

I wrote this question here, because I think it's related more to the hardware (the KORG TR) than the software (cubase)

I'm creating my own cubase patch script to have all the sounds ordered by sections and not combi/progs.

you know...
Bass/Synth Bass
Bell/Mallet
Brass
Drums
etc...

I have two questions.

1. What are the MSB values for Combis and Programs or how could one compute them? (See below)

What should I write in the patch definition so that "Combinations" mode will be selected when a Combi sound is selected from cubase? Also how would on one set the same for a sound in "Programs"?

Example:

[p3, 90, 0, 2] Syzzle Synth

// 90 - program change,
// ?? - bank MSB (Here I should be in 'Combination' mode),
// 2 bank LSB (A=0, B=1, C=2, D=3),
// Syzzle Synth

[p2, 22, 0, 3] Muted Trumpet

// 20 - program change,
// ?? - bank MSB (Here I should be in 'Programs' mode),
// 3 - bank LSB (A=0, B=1, C=2, D=3),
// Muted Trumpet

[p%L,%n,%n,%n]%s //define program name:
// %L level [1 - 9],
// %n program change [0 - 127],
// %n bank MSB [0 - 127],
// %n bank LSB [0 - 127],
// %s program name

2. What are the Key numbers?
When writing the Drums keys (for each Drum set) I have to set a value for each key.
Is key 0 the same of all TRs (61, 76, 88 ) ?

The thing is I have to set each key's instrument (in drum mode)

Example:

[k???] Tom 2-Hi

In the example above I need the key number for note C4

[k%n]%s //define key name (for the previously
// defined program):
// %n key number [0 - 127],
// %s key name

Thanks
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Nealster
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Post by Nealster »

Hi Stilgar, nice name, I see you like Dune.

Unfortunately, as far as I know, you can't change between Prog and Combi using bank select messages. (See p.235 of the TR parameter guide).

You would need to use SysEx. See these threads:
http://www.korgforums.com/forum/phpBB2/ ... p?p=224441
http://www.korgforums.com/forum/phpBB2/ ... hp?t=31345

This info is for the Triton Rack, but I'd imagine it's similar for the TR. (Edit: Not correct, see below)

Bummer #2: It doesn't seem you can input Sysex messages into the Midi Device Manager in Cubase :( (At least not in Cubase Studio 4, which is what I'm using)
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Post by Nealster »

Scratch that - the sysex messages are different on the TR. I couldn't find a midi implementation for the TR, but luckily it seems to be the same as for the Triton LE, which you can download the midi spec for from Korg's site. Here's the actual sysex messages you need to send:

F0 42 3g 63 4E 02 F7 = Combi mode
F0 42 3g 63 4E 02 F7 = Program mode

Where g is your global midi channel, starting from 0 in true digital style. So if your global channel is 1, use F0 42 30 63... etc.
I tried it on my TR61 out of curiosity so I can confirm that it works.

Oh and by the way, remember to enable Sysex in the global menu if you're going to do any Sysex stuff, it's disabled by default.
st1lgar
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Post by st1lgar »

Thanks Nealster

I too found this useful info:

http://www.cykong.com/CubaseSX/SXpanels-Tips.htm

So it seems to be doable after all...
I'll try it tonight and get back to you.
Thanks
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