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A lot of you may assume that the PA800 & PA2X are Bug Free and require no more Updates. But I'd like you to re-think again. There is certainly always room for improvements, as the list below will show.

As a long owner of a PA1X and now the PA2X, I do believe its time for an Update and we do wish the following were present in the PA keyboards, which would enhance its capability and simplify our, the everyday users life.

Most of these request are from my other Post and also from various other posts that other Users have suggested. I've put this list together, so that all Feature requests are easily viewable in a single post. Admin, please make this a sticky.

Note: These entries are not prioritized in an ascending order, but those which are highlighted in Orange, have priority. It is these features that most users would like to see an improvement on.

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#1 When a Menu is entered and exited the FOCUS should always stay at the TEMPO. Now i know you can use Shift+Tempo Value but not quite useful when you're in a hurry and need at least one hand on the keys!

#2 A Style SWAP feature. I like having a TIDY Favourite Style Setup and often change Styles from one place to another. Now having to first save say Style A and back it up temporarily/empty slot to say Fav10. Then Enter Fav9.Style1 (Style B) and Save that to Style A's original Place. Then Enter the temporary Fav10.Style1 again and re-save that to Style B's original place. Then delete the temporary saved style. Quite a long hassle. A triangular circulation, when a simple SWAP STYLE feature could swap 2 Style Places. Since there is no software tool provided by KORG to Manage our data, this feature would really save quite a lot of time.

#2.5 A SWAP, CUT, COPY & PASTE of Styles & Performance Banks. Since we don't have a SOFTWARE to do all of this editing, it sounds very wise to implement this feature. This can be Placed and Accessed through the RECORD button Menu. So there you can Edit, Create Style Pad etc... but can also have these options listed.


#3 Screen Lock: Simple Digits that can lock the keyboard so that People/kids cant tweak the keyboard when you are not around!
Incase you forget the PIN, then you can also allow the user to save a FILE on to a USB stick, and when Plugged in, WHOALA... keyboard will be unlocked again. Kind of a recovery option.

#4 Avoid DUPLICATE File Names in the Custom Banks when importing styles etc... This should have been even in the PA1X but, the PA2X definitely needs it to avoid duplicates.

#5 Since the Assignable switches have been cut back to 2, in the OPTIONS there should be one where it MUTES the Drums & Percussions Tracks both together, rather than just separately, so that the Acc1-5 Can be assigned to the other switch.

#6 Being able to Lock STS throughout changing styles...

#7 If you want to Clear All Samples from Memory then its all Good we have this option in the Sound Edit Mode. But there isn't an option to DELETE all Sounds & Performances, Styles, Pads in one go from SSD. So you end up Deleting One by One from the SSD memory, each style bank... performance bank..pads bank etc...
Rather than being able to enter the folder and doing this one by one, it would be nice to be able to delete the whole folder!


#8 Also it would be handy to show/display the name of the .SET you currently have loaded in the prefs somewhere... I'm currently testing a few SETs and a few times I forgot which one i currently had loaded, then it seemed i loaded the same Set twice..

#9 Since the PA1X OS 3.0 or 3.01 upgrade i believe it was, the FONT has become BOLD throughout the whole text, everywhere. I personally hated this. Would be nice in the Global Prefs to have an option which could Embolden or normalize the FONT. If that's not possible then, surely there could be Text Wrap on 2 lines instead of one. Currently everything fits only in 1 line, whereas there is enough space for names to become longer and fit on to 2 lines if Wrapping was possible.

#10 How about a SEARCH feature for the Sample select menu? It takes minutes to a find a single sample, in a huge collection!

#11 in the preferences : track settings : global song play setup ..
you can pick , melody track , drum, bass, and harnony track .
if you pick harmony track and set it to anything but global or ( when it on global ) the voice processor preset page that has the Latch on/off will work ...
if you set the global song play set , to any track number the the Latch on/off will not work ,in gray out ,, . so when i pick a track for the harmony , I then lose my Latch on/off ... to me it look like a easy fix .. for next OS update

#12 Been using Markers to import all the style elements at once which is fantastic. However, when I'm not happy with one of the elements, (let's say Intro 1), after saving the style, I go back to the external sequencer, make the changes and this time I try only to import "Intro 1" midi file to overwrite the previous one. That's when I get this error message on PA800 which says " ARRANGER IS RUNNING", and the keyboard freezes forever. The only way to get out of this is to shut down the keyboard!!! And this is not an isolated random problem. It happens every time that I try to import a single element to a style that originally was imported using multiple markers.

So to avoid this, I have to import that element to a new user location and save it as a new style. Then go back to the main style and copy "Intro 1" from there. What's this "arranger is running error message" all about? any comments?

#13 Sometimes, randomly, a fill-in wait an entire bar before playing, in spite of "start immediately" in cue parameter. The result is awfull when a fill-in plays one bar late!

#14 We have Play & Mute options, by why no SOLO? If i only want to hear a Drum Track, i need to mute all the rest one by one.. There could easily be a SOLO option in there too.. Play, Mute, Solo..

#15 In Record mode, i could use a Stop/start feature to audition the style from any given measure. At the moment, if you want to hear a specific measure, it takes you back to the beginning and it plays back the entire loop, until it reaches where you wanted to. Would've been nice, if we could set a starting point for the loop...

#16 let's consider having a value set to defaults = +00 so When changing that value to +25 or -70 or so.....I'd love to have this feature witch is by pressing both Up+Down buttons -near the DIAL- would bring back the value to defaults = +00 very help full!

#17 Style & Performance Editing SOFTWARE...

#18 Would like to see Portamento on-off switch feature controlled with the EC5 or a pedal which is a feature on the Triton

#19 PA2X Module

#20 When PA2X starts with PCM Autoload the loading bar value becomes full, but I still wait another 40 seconds for the OS to boot in to the MENU. Certainly the progress bar is not displaying correctly. Thats a BUG.
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Currently this is as far as the list goes. More entries may appear later.



I'm not sure if it was worth my time putting all this together, since KORG officials have no Direct link here. Hopefully one day a KORG official would see this thread and take it in to account.

We can only hope that they can at least show some effort and attempt to listen to their customers and implement some of these features.
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#7It is possible! :) Media, tab Erase, SSD-S, ALL, Open, select what you want and Erase. :wink:
#14Style Play mode, press Track Select and there is option Solo Track in drop-down menu, or press Shift+track that you want to hear.
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Post by karmathanever »

Nice list of requests.
A lot of you may assume that the PA800 & PA2X are Bug Free and require no more Updates
I could only identify 1 possible "bug" in the list but the rest was a good collection of "nice-to-have"s.

There are many complaints, requests, desires listed in a variety of topics.
I can make this a "sticky" but I am concerned that we will end up with yet another heap of unreasonable complaints mixed with some useful feedback.
The main problem is that I may list 20 things I want changed or added and yet most others may only like a few of those and in fact may object in some cases.
A classic example was when Korg produced an update (3.00) for the PA1X which changed the way in which VARs played after a FILL. Some owners loved the change - others (including me) hated it - in fact I was prepared to sell up because of it. Fortunately Korg realised that they had changed the specs and fixed it in 3.01 which of course upset those owners - the interesting thing is that Korg enabled this as an option in the PA2Xpro - THEY DO LISTEN TO US. Sadly, Korg will never get it right for everyone - if Korg implemented everything you have requested here, I am sure there would be more complaints.

However, I personally think this is a good list of useful generic requests and I am sure Korg will see it and hopefully consider some for their next model releases. I could add a request - I would like the LED to flash at the TEMPO speed (prior to starting a song) - the TEMPO button is unreliable for realtime tempo setting.

I will watch this topic closely and monitor the reactions.

Thanks for your input.

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Re: Korg OS Update Feature Wish List (STICKY)

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some1uk03 wrote: #1 When a Menu is entered and exited the FOCUS should always stay at the TEMPO. Now i know you can use Shift+Tempo Value but not quite useful when you're in a hurry and need at least one hand on the keys! [/i]

i agree.... that was the first i noticed while playing, and now EXIT key is starting to fail so i have problems with tempo untill i replace exit key....
instead of using tempo wheel they could make up/down/left/right function with PITCH BENDER.... mobile phones r using joysticks, why korg cant use pitch, its da same.... and tempo wheel is free just for tempo!!!

some1uk03 wrote:
#2 A Style SWAP feature. I like having a TIDY Favourite Style Setup and often change Styles from one place to another. Now having to first save say Style A and back it up temporarily/empty slot to say Fav10. Then Enter Fav9.Style1 (Style B) and Save that to Style A's original Place. Then Enter the temporary Fav10.Style1 again and re-save that to Style B's original place. Then delete the temporary saved style. Quite a long hassle. A triangular circulation, when a simple SWAP STYLE feature could swap 2 Style Places. Since there is no software tool provided by KORG to Manage our data, this feature would really save quite a lot of time.

#2.5 A SWAP, CUT, COPY & PASTE of Styles & Performance Banks. Since we don't have a SOFTWARE to do all of this editing, it sounds very wise to implement this feature. This can be Placed and Accessed through the RECORD button Menu. So there you can Edit, Create Style Pad etc... but can also have these options listed.


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that would save us hours and hours of working, and more time for enjoy playing instead of tuning.....
some1uk03 wrote: #3 Screen Lock: Simple Digits that can lock the keyboard so that People/kids cant tweak the keyboard when you are not around!
Incase you forget the PIN, then you can also allow the user to save a FILE on to a USB stick, and when Plugged in, WHOALA... keyboard will be unlocked again. Kind of a recovery option. [/i]
doesnt have to be usb stick, but i will pay more for any keyboard tht have this option, to lock it with a code... im sure there is a lot players to agree with this.... hours and hours of working and tuning, and some1 could easily steal or erase ur work....
some1uk03 wrote: #4 Avoid DUPLICATE File Names in the Custom Banks when importing styles etc... This should have been even in the PA1X but, the PA2X definitely needs it to avoid duplicates.[/i]

this could be useful
some1uk03 wrote: #12 Been using Markers to import all the style elements at once which is fantastic. However, when I'm not happy with one of the elements, (let's say Intro 1), after saving the style, I go back to the external sequencer, make the changes and this time I try only to import "Intro 1" midi file to overwrite the previous one. That's when I get this error message on PA800 which says " ARRANGER IS RUNNING", and the keyboard freezes forever. The only way to get out of this is to shut down the keyboard!!! And this is not an isolated random problem. It happens every time that I try to import a single element to a style that originally was imported using multiple markers.

So to avoid this, I have to import that element to a new user location and save it as a new style. Then go back to the main style and copy "Intro 1" from there. What's this "arranger is running error message" all about? any comments?[/i]
i agree with any thing u said about this problem....
some1uk03 wrote: #13 Sometimes, randomly, a fill-in wait an entire bar before playing, in spite of "start immediately" in cue parameter. The result is awfull when a fill-in plays one bar late![/i]
i hate this its really awfull in live plays....
some1uk03 wrote: #17 Style & Performance Editing SOFTWARE...[/i]
how things r going maybee in year 2020 :D
some1uk03 wrote: #18 Would like to see Portamento on-off switch feature controlled with the EC5 or a pedal which is a feature on the Triton[/i]
it will be useful, especialy for us that play oriental music...
some1uk03 wrote: Currently this is as far as the list goes. More entries may appear later.

I'm not sure if it was worth my time putting all this together, since KORG officials have no Direct link here. Hopefully one day a KORG official would see this thread and take it in to account.
i hope some1 from korg company read this, and im sure that other korg users could find here something that bothers them while playing their favourite instrument....

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Millan wrote:#7It is possible! :) Media, tab Erase, SSD-S, ALL, Open, select what you want and Erase. :wink:
#14Style Play mode, press Track Select and there is option Solo Track in drop-down menu, or press Shift+track that you want to hear.
#7 Yes it is possible, but you can only Delete One By One. i.e All 10 Favourite Banks one by one. Not all at once. Not the whole folder!

#14 How convenient is the location of that? I even forgot it was there. Im not currently in front of my PA2X but is this option available when you Edit a Style?

This is all about convenience from our point of view, because we are the ones using this keyboard everyday? Yes, Korg developed it, but they're not in front of it everyday! Maybe they're out of ideas on what to Update, which is why we haven't had an update for over a year. So it is up to us the users to let them know what is relevant and missing for us.

I've listed 20 features, but not all of them are as efficient or to the benefit to others as those highlighted in orange. I don't expect KORG to go and add all 20 features, but at least those that are possible and those that can be added for the Next update should be implemented. Mainly that Swap, Cut & Copy & Paste. That is a must I believe.
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Other than the software bugs, the PA series is very weak in the hardware,
I have the GEM WK8 for over 10 years and the only thing that went bad on it is the Tempo potentiometer, thats it, but with the KORG PA800 I have switch and joystick problems constantly.
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some1uk03 wrote:
Millan wrote:#7It is possible! :) Media, tab Erase, SSD-S, ALL, Open, select what you want and Erase. :wink:
#14Style Play mode, press Track Select and there is option Solo Track in drop-down menu, or press Shift+track that you want to hear.
#7 Yes it is possible, but you can only Delete One By One. i.e All 10 Favourite Banks one by one. Not all at once. Not the whole folder!

#14 How convenient is the location of that? I even forgot it was there. Im not currently in front of my PA2X but is this option available when you Edit a Style?

This is all about convenience from our point of view, because we are the ones using this keyboard everyday? Yes, Korg developed it, but they're not in front of it everyday! Maybe they're out of ideas on what to Update, which is why we haven't had an update for over a year. So it is up to us the users to let them know what is relevant and missing for us.

I've listed 20 features, but not all of them are as efficient or to the benefit to others as those highlighted in orange. I don't expect KORG to go and add all 20 features, but at least those that are possible and those that can be added for the Next update should be implemented. Mainly that Swap, Cut & Copy & Paste. That is a must I believe.
#7 Yes, there is no option to erase whole folder, must one by one... :(
#14 This is available also in Style Play Record mode.
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I would like to have an Os update with the possibility to assign SONG MARKERS to the PAD Switches , that will be better than touch the screen....
Or maybe update the EC-5 assignalable options and make it possible to assign markers to their footswitches.

Believe me, for live playing is better a hardware button to press than the screen... and also you can keep the full screen for lyrics !!!

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I have a big one, when you are playing a minor chord and you press start and stop, you alternate one note in an octave fashion with your left hand to stop the song all the KORGs will give you a MAJOR chord ending not minor, that is really crazy! from what I see the Rolands do this well.

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some1uk03 wrote:I'm not sure if it was worth my time putting all this together, since KORG officials have no Direct link here. Hopefully one day a KORG official would see this thread and take it in to account.
If you are not aware, 3-4 of the KORG USA highest officials visit this forum
probably on a daily basis and also one of the highest of KORG ITALY,
Paolo Trammanoni.
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I have two requests:

1: as it is a DUAL Mp3 card, I would like to be able to record vocals at the same time as recording an mp3. To explain further, whilst playing an mp3 backing, be able to not only record that mp3, but record the vocal as well, using vocal processing.

2: Longer songbook name space. I think this would be especially helpful if a user has three versions on one song, as in, a style version, a midi version and an mp3 version. With more name space it would be easier to add an identifier to each entry, without having to shorten the song name using cryptic "sms text" abbreviations. There is barely enough space foe even JUST the song name now, unless its a one word title

Oh and 3. allow the PA to "read" more than just text files. How about increasing it to at least RTF? (Rich Text File)

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Hi ,

I think One more feature would be great if possible to delete unwanted multi samples in One shot , for example #321- 338. but now you have to delete each part of multi sample One by One.


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BasariStudios wrote:
some1uk03 wrote:I'm not sure if it was worth my time putting all this together, since KORG officials have no Direct link here. Hopefully one day a KORG official would see this thread and take it in to account.
If you are not aware, 3-4 of the KORG USA highest officials visit this forum
probably on a daily basis and also one of the highest of KORG ITALY,
Paolo Trammanoni.
I'm not aware of Korg presence on this forum. Korg if you are there, just post a "hello" once a month, then we'll know ...

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amiri wrote:Hi ,

I think One more feature would be great if possible to delete unwanted multi samples in One shot , for example #321- 338. but now you have to delete each part of multi sample One by One.


Regards,

Amiri
When you Delete a MultiSample, doesn't it automatically delete the samples attached to it?

BasariStudios wrote: If you are not aware, 3-4 of the KORG USA highest officials visit this forum
probably on a daily basis and also one of the highest of KORG ITALY,
Paolo Trammanoni.
I too am not aware of Korg's Presence on this forum. As Rob said: "Korg if you are there, just post a "hello" once a month, then we'll know ..."
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Nedim is right. Korg do monitor this forum - not on any formal basis and they are under no obligation of course.

We are lucky.....

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