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RC-IA Approved Merchant
Joined: 16 Jan 2004 Posts: 971 Location: FR
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Posted: Sat Jun 18, 2011 9:05 am Post subject: |
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Chriskk wrote: | Quote: | it's a user level upgrade, no problem, and no guarantee loss |
I don't think so because the Kronos has no removable slot covers. The only way to install bigger RAM would be to open the case. No manufacturer would allow the user to open the case and still honor the warranty. |
well your remark is really too late!
but to upgrade the oasys ram you had to open the case (which was really easy) and it was a user level, no guarantee loss. confirmed !!!
now what is different withe kronos it's that it seems it's not the same way to open it like the oasys was. |
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mjames4208 Full Member
Joined: 19 Nov 2007 Posts: 113 Location: Clinton Twp., Mi. (DETROIT)
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Posted: Sat Jun 18, 2011 10:55 am Post subject: |
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I'm not a computer geek, but is it possible that, in a future update, external hard drives will work as ram? This would allow streaming of user samples.... Again, I'm not a computer geek. I'm just throwing that idea out there. _________________ NeKo LX5, Liquid Saffire 56, Motif XS8, Kronos61, A-70, Motif-Rack, FantomXR, MPC5000, R8mkii, Komplete5/6/7/8, Trilian, Total Workstation 2, EWQL Complete Composers Collection, Arturia Mini Moog V, CS-80V, ARP2600V, Jupiter-8V, Oberheim SEM-V, Analog Laboratory, Vienna Ensemble Pro, Yamaha Montage, Epic Orchestra, Flugelhorn, Sonar X2, FW-1884, MIDI Express 128, MPC Renaissance, MachFive3, Komplete 9 Ultimate, Korg Legacy Collection, Machfive 3, Jupiter-80, Moog Sub 37, |
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MartinHines Platinum Member
Joined: 21 Jan 2003 Posts: 3036 Location: Topeka, KS (USA)
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Posted: Mon Jun 20, 2011 1:08 am Post subject: |
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mjames4208 wrote: | I'm not a computer geek, but is it possible that, in a future update, external hard drives will work as ram? This would allow streaming of user samples.... Again, I'm not a computer geek. I'm just throwing that idea out there. |
External hard drives would not be used as RAM, but as with a PC or Mac, a secondary hard drive (internal or external) can be used to store samples that are streamed by a sampler (like Kontakt).
I doubt Korg would do it. Korg is pretty conservative when it comes to designing a solution and sticking with it. Adding a second external drive for sample streaming might introduce too much risk. _________________ ** KORG Product Support Contacts **
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Jan1 Platinum Member
Joined: 16 Mar 2005 Posts: 765
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Posted: Mon Jun 20, 2011 12:55 pm Post subject: |
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I would not get any hopes up for being able to expand the RAM memory.
I remember a bit of information from a few months ago about the sort of Atom processor used for the KRONOS, which was said to be a dual core running at 1.5Mhz.
The only dual-core Atom running at 1.5Mhz I can find is the N550, and you can't use more than 2GB with that processor.
Unless of course KORG used an older underclocked D5xx model, in which case it would be possible to expand to memory to 4GB. |
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KapnKrunch Junior Member
Joined: 25 Sep 2009 Posts: 88
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Posted: Mon Jun 20, 2011 2:41 pm Post subject: |
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Jan1 wrote: | I would not get any hopes up for being able to expand the RAM memory.
I remember a bit of information from a few months ago about the sort of Atom processor used for the KRONOS, which was said to be a dual core running at 1.5Mhz.
The only dual-core Atom running at 1.5Mhz I can find is the N550, and you can't use more than 2GB with that processor.
Unless of course KORG used an older underclocked D5xx model, in which case it would be possible to expand to memory to 4GB. |
Well, Korg has been a bit cagey about revealing the CPU model, but you KNOW someone will eventually open up the Kronos and make a positive identification. Any brave souls out there? |
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panrixx Senior Member
Joined: 13 May 2011 Posts: 448 Location: Tamar Valley, Cornwall, UK
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Posted: Mon Jun 20, 2011 2:46 pm Post subject: |
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KapnKrunch wrote: | Well, Korg has been a bit cagey about revealing the CPU model, but you KNOW someone will eventually open up the Kronos and make a positive identification. Any brave souls out there? |
Sounds like a job for McHale |
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MartinHines Platinum Member
Joined: 21 Jan 2003 Posts: 3036 Location: Topeka, KS (USA)
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Posted: Mon Jun 20, 2011 4:18 pm Post subject: |
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panrixx wrote: | KapnKrunch wrote: | Well, Korg has been a bit cagey about revealing the CPU model, but you KNOW someone will eventually open up the Kronos and make a positive identification. Any brave souls out there? |
Sounds like a job for McHale |
Right! Let's get McHale to do it, he'll do anything _________________ ** KORG Product Support Contacts **
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EvilDragon Platinum Member
Joined: 24 Nov 2005 Posts: 1992 Location: Croatia
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Posted: Mon Jun 20, 2011 4:56 pm Post subject: |
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Jan1, they mentioned 1.6 GHz, not 1.5 GHz. The only embedded 1.6 GHz Atom dualcore with HyperThreading, and support for up to 4 GB of RAM is D510. |
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McHale Platinum Member
Joined: 10 Feb 2009 Posts: 2487 Location: B.F.E.
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Posted: Mon Jun 20, 2011 5:23 pm Post subject: |
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In a couple weeks, we'll know for sure. _________________ Current Korg Gear: KRONOS 88 (4GB), M50-73 (PS mod), RADIAS-73, Electribe MX, Triton Pro (MOSS, SCSI, CF, 64MB RAM), SQ-64, DVP-1, MEX-8000, MR-1, KAOSSilator, nanoKey, nanoKontrol, 3x nanoPad 2, 3x DS1H, 7x PS1, FC7 (yes Korg, NOT Yamaha). |
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Jan1 Platinum Member
Joined: 16 Mar 2005 Posts: 765
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Posted: Mon Jun 20, 2011 6:07 pm Post subject: |
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EvilDragon wrote: | Jan1, they mentioned 1.6 GHz, not 1.5 GHz. The only embedded 1.6 GHz Atom dualcore with HyperThreading, and support for up to 4 GB of RAM is D510. |
I somehow remember that at one point 1.5 GHz was mentioned, but I can't say I'm completely sure about this anymore.
You're right about the processor, the N550 is not suitable for an embedded system, so it must be one of the 'D' models, probably the one you mentioned. Which is good news, because it means that 4GB of RAM should be technically possible. |
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sparkie Platinum Member
Joined: 15 Feb 2005 Posts: 743 Location: Indiana
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Posted: Tue Jun 21, 2011 2:53 am Post subject: |
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So the way I understand it is.. If you remove programs(Exis) to make room for new programs..Sharps, Erics, or what you create etc,,. it also affects the Combis??
So you have one free bank thats it ,,, and after that the Kronos is fully loaded and anything you remove.... or move... around the combis are hosed that use those programs you just removed. ?? And I created a setlist using one of the Extras and then rebooted it to the factory setting and the Setlist Program doesnt play now.. just as I thought. SO you have to reload it everytime to play correctly in the setlist? I seriously dont understand this layout at all..especially since the setlist is supposed to be preloaded everytime. |
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EvilDragon Platinum Member
Joined: 24 Nov 2005 Posts: 1992 Location: Croatia
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Posted: Tue Jun 21, 2011 9:36 am Post subject: |
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Removing programs has ALWAYS affected the combis with Korg. |
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michelkeijzers Approved Merchant
Joined: 08 Feb 2007 Posts: 9113 Location: Netherlands
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Posted: Tue Jun 21, 2011 11:35 am Post subject: |
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EvilDragon wrote: | Removing programs has ALWAYS affected the combis with Korg. |
This is both good and bad. If you improve (or personalize) a program than it has the advantage that it automatically is being used by all combis using that program. However, if you want to change the program purely for a combi, you have to copy it first (without knowing in which combis it is used). Luckily a cross reference list is posted. _________________
Developer of the free PCG file managing application for most Korg workstations: PCG Tools, see https://www.kronoshaven.com/pcgtools/ |
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EvilDragon Platinum Member
Joined: 24 Nov 2005 Posts: 1992 Location: Croatia
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Posted: Tue Jun 21, 2011 12:07 pm Post subject: |
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Actually I wish combis were self-contained, not referring to the programs (but still having a possibility to load from programs - they just wouldn't use a pointer to the memory location of a certain program, instead they would copy the program to their own file and make it a part of itself). That would take more memory, sure, but then again memory is cheap nowadays. |
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EnjoyRC Platinum Member
Joined: 26 Aug 2008 Posts: 746 Location: John 3:16
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Posted: Tue Jun 21, 2011 12:44 pm Post subject: |
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EvilDragon wrote: | Actually I wish combis were self-contained, not referring to the programs (but still having a possibility to load from programs - they just wouldn't use a pointer to the memory location of a certain program, instead they would copy the program to their own file and make it a part of itself). That would take more memory, sure, but then again memory is cheap nowadays. |
That's a feature that is VERY desirable, just like 'Smooth Sound Transition'. Wish all keyboard manufacturers did that. Access Virus TI finally did that. Their multis contain separate copies of the program patches that make um up. C'mon Korg... it doesn't take that much more patch space _________________
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