Moving older SongBook files to Pa3X with SongBook Editor 1.4

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Moving older SongBook files to Pa3X with SongBook Editor 1.4

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Moving older SongBook files (and other data) to Pa3X

Introduction

WHEN USING SONGBOOK EDITOR 1.4, PLEASE ALSO UPDATE YOUR PA3X TO OS 1.11 (or higher).

AFTER CHOOSING THE PA3X AS THE TARGET, DO NOT CHANGE IT TO AVOID MIXING DATA FORMATS.

The SongBook file uses links to Style locations and disk paths to locate files on a disk. Since the new Pa3X uses different Style mapping and disk labels than the previous Pa-Series models, migrating data from an older Pa-Series model to the new Pa3X requires a few easy conversion operations, detailed in this document.

NOTE: We received reports from users trying to solve compatibility issues by renaming the internal disk label – for example, by changing the internal disk's name from “[KHD_USER]” to the same label of Pa2X, i.e., “[KORG HD]”.
RENAMING THE INTERNAL DISK IS TO BE AVOIDED. With the current operating system (starting from release 1.10) renaming the internal disk is not allowed at all.

To relink SongBook entries to Styles, SMF, MP3 and TXT files, please use the SongBook Editor (freely available from our web site, www.korgpa.com; instructions are included with the installation file).


Working with Styles

Preparing data

To avoid having to relink each single Style, we suggest you load older Favourite/User Styles into the same locations on Pa3X. For example, if "MyStyle 3" was saved in the User 01-03 location on Pa2X, load it to the same User 01-03 location on Pa3X.

Also, we suggest to transfer complete Style banks from the older instrument to Pa3X. This way, each Style will remain in the same location inside its bank.

Some users created custom Factory Style banks. We suggest to transform them into Favourite/User Styles, to keep the original Pa3X Factory Style untouched; this would also make them easier to transfer between different Pa-Series instruments. However, you are free to create custom Factory Styles on Pa3X as well.

1) If you have custom Factory Style banks, on the older Pa-Series model go to the Media/Disk > Preferences page, and turn the Factory Style and Pad Protect option off.

2) Go to the Media/Disk > Save page, and save each Style bank to be transferred to a Favorite/User Style bank. (The procedure is detailed in the User's Manual.)

3) On Pa3X, load the new Favorite/User Style banks (containing your older Styles) to the Favorite/User Style banks. Be very careful not to overwrite existing data of which you don't have a backup copy.

Use either an USB memory stick, or an USB connection with your PC, to copy all your TXT files into the [KHD_USER] area of Pa3X. We suggest you preserve the same folder structure as in the older instrument.

Relinking Styles

On Pa3X, Styles are organized in a different way than on the older Pa-Series models. Therefore, SongBook entries will probably refer to a different Style than on the older instruments.

By using SongBook Editor, you will be able to quickly remap the Styles in the SongBook entries. The following table, for example, shows how Style banks are mapped on Pa3X, compared to Pa2X/Pa800 (Style locations in other Pa-Series models are detailed in the User Guide of SongBook Editor):

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While in SongBook Editor, click on the label on top of the Resource column and see all the entries ordered by bank and location number; you can then select all the entries that are based on a particular Style bank, and choose the right button > Edit command to access editing. While in the Edit window, check the checkbox next to the bank number to link the selected entries to a different bank.

To relink single entries, select them and access the Edit window; then edit the bank and location numbers to link the selected entry to a different Style.

When relinking Styles, you will also want to relink any TXT file associated to the SongBook entry. Please read below about how to relink TXT files.


Working with SMF, MP3 and TXT files

Preparing Data

First of all, copy all sparse MID, MP3 and TXT files from the old internal disk to the [KHD_USER] area of Pa3X. Use either an USB memory stick, or an USB connection with your PC, to copy all your MID, MP3 and TXT files into the [KHD_USER] area of Pa3X. We suggest you preserve the same folder structure as in the older instrument.

Relinking SMF, MP3 and TXT files

Standard MIDI Files (SMF), MP3 and TXT files are linked to SongBook entries through a standard disk path. For example, the link to a "MySong.mp3" file on Pa3X will look similar to this one:

[KHD_USER]\foldername\mp3\MySong.mp3 *
*(Please note that the name of the label must include the square brackets: [KHD_USER])

On an older Pa-Series model, the disk label was different; for example, on the Pa2X/Pa800 it was "[KORG HD]" instead of "[KHD_USER]".

While in SongBook Editor, you will be able to click on the label on top of the Resource column and see all the entries ordered alphabetically; you can then select multiple entries, choose the right button > Edit command, check the checkbox next to the disk label, and then reassign the linked files to the "[KHD_USER]" disk.

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Post by dimitris »

Thanks, Mr Tramannoni!

Best regards,
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Post by miden »

Terrific Paolo, thanks

Wonderful information.

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Post by miden »

Sorry Paolo, that does not quite work in relation to Midis and MP3's

Songbook Editor 1.3 will NOT allow the change from C: to the KHD_USER name in the resources column.

Even though this is entered, it does not change when exiting from the Edit box.

I even tried doing it, and re transferring the SB to the PA3, but it still comes up with Resource not found.

Dennis

****EDIT****

Okay, my bad it does work, but for the FIRST-TIME edit, users must have the PA3 connected to the PC in USB disk operations mode. Then SB 1.3 will allow the changing of resource location to KHD_USER..And when loaded back to the PA3, the songbook correctly loads the resources when an entry is selected..

Thanks again Paolo
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Post by Paolo@Korg »

Hi Dennis (and all the others),

I'm sorry, but there was a mistake in the above instructions. The volume label should be written, in the SongBook Editor, with square brackets. So, the name should be:

[KHD_USER]

and not:

KHD_USER

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Paolo
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Post by miden »

Ahh okay, no worries, thanks Paolo. It worked having the PA connected to the PC in any case as SB editor then "saw" the Korg hd, so I got the job done.

But still good for other readers :)

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Post by joche »

Hi Mr. Tramannoni,

Any news about Songbook V1.4 ?
If you need a beta tester I'm ready... ;)

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here it is , we need a song book Editor so we can point to a style that sound some what like a song we want to sing and we spend days fixing the songbook full of songs and look for the right style. or i just buy it or get it free from net and it sound more like the song then the style ... i work 4 to 5 days a week and when i play the mp3 karaoke track on my pa800 ,people say it sound better then the style track .. i feel bad ,, play solo for over 45 years piano and the people like karaoke trackt better .. its sad .
but the pa keyboard are great fun just for jammin on song you can not Reckon-nize to much .
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Post by Paolo@Korg »

Joche,

The release date is not far.

Best,
Paolo
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Post by hellboy44 »

Sorry - just saw this!

I'm going to assume this doesn't help owners of a PA1x transferring to the PA3x - right?

(There is only mention of the PA2x/PA800)

:cry:
Just pretend I've written something funny, yet wise and ironic here...
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Post by miden »

tramannoni wrote:Joche,

The release date is not far.

Best,
Paolo
:lol: I don't need it anymore as I have already completed a manual conversion. Thanks anyway Paolo.

It might be a useful toy later on down the track.

I would rather Korg software people get some sort of PC editing program running rather than a Songbook editor to be honest.

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miden wrote:
tramannoni wrote:Joche,

The release date is not far.

Best,
Paolo
:lol: I don't need it anymore as I have already completed a manual conversion. Thanks anyway Paolo.

It might be a useful toy later on down the track.

I would rather Korg software people get some sort of PC editing program running rather than a Songbook editor to be honest.

Dennis
Hi Dennis,

I have over 500 items in my songbook. And over 10 setlists.
All have : styles, a txt file, four differents sts and a mic setup. PA2x files are not 100% compatible with a manual conversion with the PA3x.
Do you imagine how many time I need to make a manual conversion ?
PA3x sounds and styles are not are the same place.

It's not a useful toy for me an other players !


Since I had my PA3x I can't use the amazing functions of my keyboard.
Next time I will keep my money until the software is out and the operating system will be completed.

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Post by miden »

Joche, err, I actually have well over 900, plsue custom lists, plus all songs having different STS setups and mic settings etc etc...

It took me many days, but it had to be done so I did it....I am a pro player using it (the Songbook) at gigs, so I ha d no choice. I do not have the luxury of waiting as you maybe have.....

As I said the Songbook Editor, might be a nice little app to have, but now I have no real need for it.

My advice to you is don't wait too long....

In my opinion, this software should have been ready to go the day of the release of the PA3 series....AS should PC editing software, but that's a whole other story by itself ;)
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Post by joche »

Hi Midem,

You're a brave man to have recreated the 900 entries in the songbook.

Like you, I do not have the luxury of waiting for the software but I do not have enough time to recreate all the entries manualy.

In the meantime I do not play with my PA3x on stage. I use other old keyboards !
Joche
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Post by miden »

Still more time passes, and still no sign of this supposed editor!!! I did warn others not to hold their breath waiting...

This is a simple bit of software (after all it is ONLY a glorified Excell spreadsheet program) nothing arcane, so why it is still not available is a mystery.

Unless it is not even been started on???? ;)
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