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[Synthoid]

I finally had a chance to play the Kronos yesterday... obviously quite scarce around here.

But anyway--I didn't have a lot of time to explore every feature in depth, but I do have a question. When I was paging through the various windows/tabs, I didn't see any envelope generator present in the CX-3 section. What happens if I want to modify the attack or release of an organ sound?
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[michelkeijzers]

AFAIK that is not possible but why would you? There is also not such functionality on a real hammond organ.

Maybe you can output the sound of the CX3 as input for one of the other EXIs that has envelopes (AL1?).
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[Synthoid]

[phattbuzz]

You can create other organs in the HD1 Sampler and assign envelopes to them.
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[Synthoid]

That basically defeats organ modeling with the Kronos then. Oh well... guess I have a lot to learn about tone wheel organs.

Bummer.
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[popmann]

Or about physical modelling tech...

[jeebustrain]

conceivably, you could layer a CX-3 and an AL-1 sound together in a program and use the EG from the AL-1 to manipulate the CX-3.

I haven't done this specific thing, but I can't see why it wouldn't be possible
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[ccmacdon]

I would think that you could easily "re-sample" the organ sound that you're looking for, including any dynamic drawbar changes, and then simply process it like any other sample.

That said, Synthoid I think you have a few things to learn about the Hammond organ, and the CX3 engine.... The CX3 engine simply mimics a real hammond organ which has no Attack/Decay/Sustain/Release... it's simply a note on and note off...! The drawbars and expression pedal are what is used to effectively vary the ADSR of the organ tone, AND the percussion of course!
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[Synthoid]

[michelkeijzers]

[cello]

Can't help but ask - but did the original CX-3 have such an attack/release function?

Have looked at pictures of the Cx-3 and can't see such a thing.

But could be wrong - I hate organs so have no interest.

But, am curious - are you looking for the original sound, or an original sound you can make into something else?
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[ccmacdon]

The CX3 engine is designed to emulate a Hammond tonewheel organ, period. Neither the original Hammond, or the original CX3, had a variable attack/release function. The CX3 engine is not designed to be a "synthesized" version of the Hammond Organ, it's intended to recreate it exactly. If you want to play with the hammond sound, and "synthesize" it, simply resample the CX3 engine into the HD1 sample engine and process it any way you want! That's the beauty of the Kronos.

To suggest that we add features to the CX3 engine that are not part of the original design of the Hammond Organ is entirely contrary to the design and purpose of the CX3 engine in the first place... AND it's entirely contrary to what most us organ players would want or expect from the CX3 engine. When I dial up a CX3 program I want it to behave like a real Hammond.

That's not to say that you can't resample the CX3 engine and take the Hammond sound somewhere else.. by all means go ahead and go crazy, but recognize that for most of us organ players, the beauty of the CX3 engine is it's faithful recreation of the Hammond rather than the ability to go somewhere else with it.
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