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michelkeijzers · Posted: Sat Mar 24, 2012 1:20 pm Post subject:

It would be strange if they didn't win (except in the area of workstations).
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Sharp · Posted: Sat Mar 24, 2012 1:46 pm Post subject:

It's a one horse race now days anyway.
Yamaha and Roland haven't released anything "New" in years.

Recycle.. Recycle.. rehash.. Recycle..

Yamaha's AWM2 Sound Engine is older than my house and my two kids age combined.

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BillW · Posted: Sat Mar 24, 2012 2:48 pm Post subject:

Sharp · Posted: Sat Mar 24, 2012 3:07 pm Post subject:

Every keyboard is an upgrade on the last. What Yamaha deem an acceptable upgrade over the last is a joke to me. Just look at their Arranger Tyros series for example or any of the Motifs.

KORG keep coming up with new sound engines, modelling technology, major new functions, streaming HDR, and much more....

What have Yamaha done lately to push the envelope? I really can't think of one single thing and I'm not just saying that for the laugh or as a KORG Fan boy. I honesty can't think of anything Yamaha has done in a long time that I found interesting.

The last Yamaha item I bought was a VL-70M and a WX-5. Now that's freaking cool hardware. What happened to those VL days when Yamaha were inventing exciting NEW technologies?

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apex · Platinum Member Joined: 23 Feb 2010 Posts: 2340

but there is something unique about the Kronos. all companies rehash... it's the most cost effective way to produce, and smartest if I may add.

there is nothing wrong with recycling, (it helps the Earth Wink

)

but the Kronos has recycled parts, and also brand new elements that it brings to the table.
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JPROBERTLA · Posted: Sat Mar 24, 2012 3:14 pm Post subject:

Technically I don't know what hardware and software in the Kronos is either recycled or new. But it doesn't really matter when you look at the sum of the parts and not the parts themselves. The design and concept is certainly is unique, compared to what else is out there.

The Kronos is simply the next step in the evolution of Korg synthesizer workstations; it would be foolish for them to go off in a completely different direction considering the success they have had over the last 20 years with the design and concept of their workstation products.

But don't believe for a minute that none of this is new. The basic concept and design (i.e., 9 different sound engines in one keyboard) is newish, except for the Oasys and maybe a few other keyboards from 2nd tier manufacturers that I don't even know about.

The Motif came out shortly after the Triton and the Fantom not to far after that. These are basically sample playback synths that have been improved on over the past 10 or so years - theres nothing wrong with that, but they are not new technology, design or concept.

The Triton-like spin-offs are lesser expensive models designed to give those that can't afford flagship workstations an alternative - theres certainly nothing wrong with that. The Oasys was a bold step forward and the M-3 was an improvement in Korg sample play-back workstations - nothing wrong with that either.

If you can't see the leap here, then I believe you simply don't want to.
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Jan1 · Platinum Member Joined: 16 Mar 2005 Posts: 765

With the OASYS/KRONOS KORG has created a very versatile platform for their workstations, and I feel they rightly deserve the award.

GregC · Posted: Sat Mar 24, 2012 4:24 pm Post subject:

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Cpilot · Senior Member Joined: 05 Oct 2011 Posts: 427

I agree with Sharp. My newest Yamaha arranger is 10 years old and Yamaha haven't done much since then. One of the reasons I bought the Kronos (apart from the fact that it's the best keyboard around).

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Sharp · Posted: Sat Mar 24, 2012 9:08 pm Post subject: