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LivePsy · Senior Member Joined: 23 Nov 2007 Posts: 355

I upgraded to 1.6.0 as soon as it came out. But posts about bugs in 1.6.0 worried me and I could easily reproduce those problems. I am now back to 1.5.0 as I think several posters are. But its not a fix all. The EG2 to HPF bug in the MS20ex is also present in 1.5.0. The long delays when loading several wav files in disk mode is still there in 1.5.0 (it was the first thing I noticed when I got the Kronos). And the Karma bug has a work around.

So I'm wondering if it is still worth it to be on 1.5.0. I don't think 1.5 is better than 1.6. Are there any real benefits to stay on 1.5?

Regards,
BF

Lou · Posted: Tue May 01, 2012 5:57 am Post subject:

I never had any issues until 1.6. I experienced the Karma problem and thanks to Stephen's workaround I'm okay with that now.

This evening I turned on the K and 3 out of 5 combis played terrible, factory and my own. (Karma wise and audio)
So I rebooted and no change. Reloaded the necessary data from the factory and it seems to be good now but it's been erratic with little things that I can't put a finger on just yet.
Also I've noticed a difference in my audio output being hotter. I'm using the spdif outs and have had zero problems till now.
Don't know if any of this is 1.6 related? Will wait for 1.7, I'm not going backwards unless I absolutly have to.
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Sina172 · Platinum Member Joined: 29 May 2007 Posts: 1194

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AMR · Posted: Tue May 01, 2012 10:23 am Post subject:

LivePsy · Senior Member Joined: 23 Nov 2007 Posts: 355

AMR, did you read my comment that the MS20 bug is in 1.5 also?

I think 1.5 is the oldest I can use because I won't live without extra ram and user banks. So an earlier version is not possible. Does 1.6 introduce any bugs other than the karma?

Cheers,
B

LivePsy · Senior Member Joined: 23 Nov 2007 Posts: 355

Lou and AMR, have you downgraded to 1.5 to check if your random craziness problems are still happening?

I can't see that the 1.6 is the cause of things changing at random. I suspect you have a hardware fault.

Cheers,
B

Sparker · Posted: Tue May 01, 2012 11:44 am Post subject:

Having read many of the comments on the forum about the editor and plug-in I decided against upgrading to OS. 1.6

From what I gather, there's no advantage to me in installing the editor as I've managed to get a handle on the touchscreen operations, which suits me fine - (A touchscreen pen does the job as well as a mouse would AFAIC.)

I've stuck to using standard midi in-out from my Cubase so no need for the plug-in either.

Everything is working as normal for me on OS 1.5 so can't see the need to upgrade until a version comes along that offers more functionality (like the extra banks that came with 1.5)

I've just got the KK KARMA software running in tandem with KT (KARMA Triton software) on the same PC, so the last thing I want is anything that may start making random or spontaneous changes to my KARMA configurations/sets/etc).
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AMR · Posted: Tue May 01, 2012 12:10 pm Post subject:

Lou · Posted: Tue May 01, 2012 5:03 pm Post subject:

I haven't done any research but can someone tell me if 1.5 can be reinstalled over 1.6?
If this behavior continues I may have to go back. Thanks.
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LivePsy · Senior Member Joined: 23 Nov 2007 Posts: 355

Lou, I did a downgrade from 1.6 to 1.5 booting from the DVDs. First I did a Full Install. Because the bug was still in the MS20, I then did a Format install and it was exactly the same result. I didn't need to reauthorize.

This put me back to 1.0.6. So whatever version it is, try using the factory sounds loaded and see if there are any problems.

Cheers,
BF

jimknopf · Platinum Member Joined: 17 Jan 2011 Posts: 3374

It would be much more helpful to see a statement from Korg staff here, showing us that they are
a) aware of all bugs mentioned by users so far (Karma, MS-20, instability issues/crashes, whatever) and
b) working on a quickfix which will not last months but a few weeks to arrive.

There are enough Kronos users meanwhile using the board for regular gigs, and they just need a clear signal of stability and reliability of the OS (while some are still having trouble with keybed issues).

This fantastic synth needs as much stability (both concerning hardware/keybed and OS) as possible, and that as fast as possible. Everthing else (has already and) will hurt the Kronos reputation a lot.
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X-Trade · Posted: Tue May 01, 2012 10:43 pm Post subject:

I've been using the Kronos having upgraded straight from v1.0.x to 1.6 after buying it. 1.6 had only just come out at the time.
I ran into the MS20 and KARMA issues straight away, however KARMA bug was the only one that was really limiting, and I managed to get around that pretty quickly once the workaround was found. Knowing to select the GE twice, it's just not a problem.

I haven't had any crashes or stability issues. (although my MS2000B crashed out recently, perhaps in disgust at it's replacement).
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Lou · Posted: Tue May 01, 2012 10:55 pm Post subject:

Very sad, but as of today I had Kronos freeze on me twice, not very happy at the moment.
I've had zero problems since I purchased it. Now after 1.6 sorry to say all, but there are gremlins lurking within.
I don't play out but if I did I would not be very comfortable as the problems occur randomly if not all.
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LivePsy · Senior Member Joined: 23 Nov 2007 Posts: 355

Have you reloaded the factory PCG just to check its not something corrupt in the banks?

B