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fingerpianist
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 Posted: Mon May 21, 2012 10:14 am Post subject: Which UPS? |
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The title says it all.
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Cpilot
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| Posted: Mon May 21, 2012 1:39 pm Post subject: |
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I use an APC Back-UPS ES500. Had it for about eight years and no problems at all. It has worked OK through several power cuts. Still has the original battery. And they still make it apparently.
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DennyC
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| Posted: Mon May 21, 2012 2:32 pm Post subject: |
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That is a very nice unit. 
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searlstudio
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I have a CyberPower OR700 rack mount UPS that is really nice. Got it from Amazon. I also have an APC XS 1300 which I've had for a couple of years and is also OK. I had to change the battery after two years which cost about $56 to replace. When the battery dies again I'll just get another CyberPower rack mount unit.
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Ojustaboo
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| Posted: Thu May 24, 2012 9:53 am Post subject: |
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Was about to post an almost identical thread so if no one minds, I'll jump in here
I also want to get a UPS, I know little about what's suitable for my use.
I have I7 920, 16 GB RAM, Nvidia GTX 465, 24" and 19" monitor as my PC.
The recommended power supply for my graphics card is 500w, I have a 700w one. Online tests show my card as drawing 345W under load down to 145W when idle.
24" Monitor uses 110W max, down to 57W
19" monitor uses 55W
Two active monitors (each 22w idle, 130w full load which wont happen due to neighbours)
Small (Mackie 802-VLZ3) Mixer (13 w)
Korg Triton Extreme 88 (38w)
Home use only.
So that means if every things drawing it's max,
Graphics card 345W
24" Monitor 110W
19" Monitor 55W
2 Active monitors 260W
Mixer 13W
Triton 38W
Total = 821W (PLUS whatever the rest of the PC uses)
Two places I use most are
http://www.scan.co.uk/shop/computer-hardware/all/ups/ups-uninterruptible-power-supplies-for-computer-pc
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http://www.ebuyer.com/search?page=1&sort=pricelow&limit=40&q=ups&filtercat=193&filtersubcat=1896
Haven't got a clue what I should be looking at, any advice greatly received.
Not bothered about it running for 10 mins after loss of power, as long as I have enough time to save anything I'm working on and shut PC/Triton down smoothly, I'm happy.
Many thanks
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EnjoyRC
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| Posted: Thu May 24, 2012 11:16 am Post subject: |
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| Ojustaboo wrote: | | Was about to post an almost identical thread so if no one minds, I'll jump in here |
Hey Ojustaboo,
When putting equipment on a UPS, choose which equipment requires UPS backup. Some things aren't critical. If a mixer, reference monitors or secondary display monitors go out, no big deal. It's primarily the PC and Keyboards that need it. Any equipment that you make frequent changes on should be UPS protected. Everything else, simply surge protected. That's why many APC UPSs have a row of battery backed/surge protected outlets and a row of surge protected only outlets.
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DocBambs
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| Posted: Thu May 24, 2012 12:31 pm Post subject: |
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| EnjoyRC wrote: |
Hey Ojustaboo,
When putting equipment on a UPS, choose which equipment requires UPS backup. Some things aren't critical. If a mixer, reference monitors or secondary display monitors go out, no big deal. It's primarily the PC and Keyboards that need it. Any equipment that you make frequent changes on should be UPS protected. Everything else, simply surge protected. That's why many APC UPSs have a row of battery backed/surge protected outlets and a row of surge protected only outlets. |
I have an APC Back-UPS ES550 and my solution is to only have the Kronos and Yamaha P80 connected to it (and Novation X-25, but it doesn't go out often). All my other live gear on stage comes back immediately - fold back wedges, DI rack, lights, mixer (sometimes).
I am gigging tomorrow night in a venue that I never played in before and in a bandstand outside on Sunday. I will be protecting the gear with the UPS for both venues. (I only got the K61 last Friday so it's really too early to be taking it out but the Triton has gone to Korg to have his joints looked at... he is old, after all.)
DB
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fingerpianist
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| Posted: Thu May 24, 2012 2:19 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks for all the replies. I'm going for an APC 700W
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Ojustaboo
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| Posted: Thu May 24, 2012 8:56 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks for all the advice. Think around 700w will be fine and allow for future expansion.
Any opinions as to whether a pure sine wave output is better than a simulated one?
Was looking at this unit but it's simulated, I need to double the price to get pure.
http://www.cyberpower-eu.com/products/ups_systems/value/value1200e_gp.htm
Many thanks for all your advice
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Hexfix93
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| Posted: Thu May 24, 2012 9:00 pm Post subject: |
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| Why do you need a UPS again? |
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michelkeijzers
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| Posted: Thu May 24, 2012 9:49 pm Post subject: |
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| Hexfix93 wrote: | | Why do you need a UPS again? |
The major reason is to prevent the Kronos rebooting from bad power or power dips/loss.
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Sharp
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| Posted: Thu May 24, 2012 9:56 pm Post subject: |
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| michelkeijzers wrote: | | Hexfix93 wrote: | | Why do you need a UPS again? |
The major reason is to prevent the Kronos rebooting from bad power or power dips/loss. |
I think the most important reason anyone should buy a UPS is to protect their investment.
Even if the power in your area is good, a UPS is still a great investment for any device you own that is expensive.
Regards
Sharp.
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