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a.lorenzi
Joined: 22 Feb 2009 Posts: 3
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Posted: Tue Jul 10, 2012 4:27 pm Post subject: Kronos Price Drop |
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Hey, people.
I'm looking forward to buy a kronos 61. I was just getting time waiting for these keybeds, velocity curves problems. And now I noticed that many stores, like musiciansfriend, sweetwater, amazon and many others are lowering kronos prices. I also heard that the M50 and M3 were discontinued. Is there a chance that korg releases a new keyboard by these days? |
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Comrad_Durandal Full Member
Joined: 24 Apr 2012 Posts: 166 Location: Minneapolis, MN
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Posted: Tue Jul 10, 2012 4:34 pm Post subject: |
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I don't know about the M3 and M50 being discontinued... I smell a yarn being spun by an over-eager salesperson wanting to close a deal on a keyboard with that one. The Kronos, M50, and M3 compete in different markets. The M50 is for the on-stage live performances, the M3 is the in arranger small band crowd, and the Kronos is for composing and song-writing. Of course, they aren't limited to those markets and people often use them for purposes they weren't designed for in a professional capacity.
As for price drops - NAMM is coming up, some retailers are hedging the bet that Korg will release a new workstation (either an updated Kronos or a new board entirely) and they want to get the older stock out of the channel to make room for the newer product. |
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GregC Platinum Member
Joined: 15 May 2002 Posts: 9451 Location: Discovery Bay (San Francisco Bay Area)
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Posted: Tue Jul 10, 2012 4:46 pm Post subject: Re: Kronos Price Drop |
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a.lorenzi wrote: | Hey, people.
I'm looking forward to buy a kronos 61. I was just getting time waiting for these keybeds, velocity curves problems. And now I noticed that many stores, like musiciansfriend, sweetwater, amazon and many others are lowering kronos prices. I also heard that the M50 and M3 were discontinued. Is there a chance that korg releases a new keyboard by these days? |
" And now I noticed that many stores, like musiciansfriend, sweetwater, amazon and many others are lowering kronos prices."
you didn't mention if they are all lowering the price by the same amount.
Or if its advertised or 'street ' pricing.
Anyway, dealers tend to follow each other closely and they typically match as best they can. I suspect thats what you are seeing. So cut your best deal. _________________ Kronos 88. MODX8
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michelkeijzers Approved Merchant
Joined: 08 Feb 2007 Posts: 9113 Location: Netherlands
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Posted: Tue Jul 10, 2012 4:57 pm Post subject: |
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Maybe the thread about Kronos 'LE' is not that 'virtual' at all. _________________
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jimknopf Platinum Member
Joined: 17 Jan 2011 Posts: 3374
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Posted: Tue Jul 10, 2012 7:53 pm Post subject: |
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Funny: No price drop in Europe yet.
Once more Korg US prices/selling months ahead of Europe?
This looks a lot like they updated the hardware - or want to get stock units sold before doing so. _________________ Kronos 73 - Moog Voyager RME - Moog LP TE - Behringer Model D - Prophet 6 - Roland Jupiter Xm - Rhodes Stage 73 Mk I - Elektron Analog Rytm MkII - Roland TR-6s - Cubase 12 Pro + Groove Agent 5 |
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Pepperpotty Moderator
Joined: 31 Dec 2010 Posts: 1308 Location: Suffolk, UK
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Posted: Tue Jul 10, 2012 8:03 pm Post subject: |
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jimknopf wrote: | Funny: No price drop in Europe yet.
Once more Korg US prices/selling months ahead of Europe?
This looks a lot like they updated the hardware - or want to get stock units sold before doing so. |
Actually I noticed yesterday that the price of the 61 key had dropped from £2599 to £2199 here in the UK. That's quite a nice reduction. _________________ Current gear: Korg Kronos 61, Voicelive 2, Shure SM58, Alesis M1 Active 520, Focusrite Scarlett 18i6 |
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apex Platinum Member
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RonF Platinum Member
Joined: 04 Jul 2002 Posts: 1179 Location: San Diego, CA USA
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Posted: Tue Jul 10, 2012 8:54 pm Post subject: |
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I think he means that if they were going to update the hardware and secretly planned an upcoming release....one strategy might be to lower the price of inventory already in the distribution chain, to flush it out before announcing the release of something new/better. Of course, he has no inside knowledge and is completely speculating. Its just as viable that the retailers are dropping prices based on a natural progression of consumer demand. But then with Summer NAMM around the corner.....you just never know. And that's the point really....we do not know. _________________ http://soundcloud.com/ronf-3/sets/ronf-music
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GregC Platinum Member
Joined: 15 May 2002 Posts: 9451 Location: Discovery Bay (San Francisco Bay Area)
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Posted: Tue Jul 10, 2012 9:25 pm Post subject: |
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all we really know is there is a advertised retail price drop for the 61. Plus the other key sizes(in the US).
In the US, it looks like the 61 ad price is $2795.
In the US, there are usually 2 prices, ad and ' street'.
Korg may have simply reduced the MSRP to the dealers. That quickly allows the dealer to lower the ad price. This is common stuff.
Its a simple matter for a buyer to question the dealer ' why did the price decrease for the 61' ? An informed dealer will tell the serious buyer the reason.
I wouldn't speculate beyond the above. Getting the facts from the dealer would answer the question. _________________ Kronos 88. MODX8
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jimknopf Platinum Member
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Posted: Tue Jul 10, 2012 9:50 pm Post subject: |
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Of course we know nothing and all thoughts are pure speculation.
But such price drops rarely happen without good reason, either concerning competition or own strategies. _________________ Kronos 73 - Moog Voyager RME - Moog LP TE - Behringer Model D - Prophet 6 - Roland Jupiter Xm - Rhodes Stage 73 Mk I - Elektron Analog Rytm MkII - Roland TR-6s - Cubase 12 Pro + Groove Agent 5 |
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Pepperpotty Moderator
Joined: 31 Dec 2010 Posts: 1308 Location: Suffolk, UK
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Posted: Tue Jul 10, 2012 9:58 pm Post subject: |
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jimknopf wrote: | Of course we know nothing and all thoughts are pure speculation.
But such price drops rarely happen without good reason, either concerning competition or own strategies. |
You're absolutely right there. About 2 years ago I was deciding whether to buy the m3 or the pa800 and the prices were the same then as they are now. I would bet that the prices are the same as when these keyboards were first released. So something has happened to make Korg reduce the price of the Kronos. It could very well be that they want to clear the old stock ready for a new batch of Kronos Xpanded or Kronos LE that will be announced at summer Namm. Or it could just be that with the effects of the recession, the tsunami and the money lost replacing keybeds that they're trying to make the Kronos more appealing by lowering the price.
Whatever the reason. Thanks Korg! _________________ Current gear: Korg Kronos 61, Voicelive 2, Shure SM58, Alesis M1 Active 520, Focusrite Scarlett 18i6 |
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CfNorENa Senior Member
Joined: 19 Aug 2008 Posts: 437 Location: SF Bay Area
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Posted: Tue Jul 10, 2012 10:19 pm Post subject: |
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GregC wrote: | all we really know is there is a advertised retail price drop for the 61. |
NovaMusik is showing reduced prices for all three models.
(I agree with the rest of your post, by the way) _________________ Korg gear: Kronos 73.
Other gear: Oberheim SEM | SCI Prophet 5 | Roland MKS-70 | Waldorf Microwave XTk |
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GregC Platinum Member
Joined: 15 May 2002 Posts: 9451 Location: Discovery Bay (San Francisco Bay Area)
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Posted: Wed Jul 11, 2012 12:32 am Post subject: |
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Pepperpotty wrote: | jimknopf wrote: | Of course we know nothing and all thoughts are pure speculation.
But such price drops rarely happen without good reason, either concerning competition or own strategies. |
You're absolutely right there. About 2 years ago I was deciding whether to buy the m3 or the pa800 and the prices were the same then as they are now. I would bet that the prices are the same as when these keyboards were first released. So something has happened to make Korg reduce the price of the Kronos. It could very well be that they want to clear the old stock ready for a new batch of Kronos Xpanded or Kronos LE that will be announced at summer Namm. Or it could just be that with the effects of the recession, the tsunami and the money lost replacing keybeds that they're trying to make the Kronos more appealing by lowering the price.
Whatever the reason. Thanks Korg! |
The M3 ( I had the M3M) was not a good seller. I really enjoyed my M3M but it did not beat its competitors.
I am under the impression that the Kronos has sold well in the 1 year it has been available. Korg wants to sell as many as possible just like any other company. The easiest way to gain more sales is to drop the price. It is a big ticket item and there was room to reduce the price.
Keeping sales moving at retail is mostly a struggle ( I have my own store).
If I see my sales dropping over the past 30 days, I would take action , give up some margin so the inventory would not get too big. We have had more severe weather in the US over the past month which supresses sales in many categories. No business wants to be stuck with too much inventory.
So, sure, there could be a few things going on. The dealers know the score. _________________ Kronos 88. MODX8
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apex Platinum Member
Joined: 23 Feb 2010 Posts: 2340
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Posted: Wed Jul 11, 2012 3:50 am Post subject: |
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RonF wrote: | I think he means that if they were going to update the hardware and secretly planned an upcoming release....one strategy might be to lower the price of inventory already in the distribution chain, to flush it out before announcing the release of something new/better. Of course, he has no inside knowledge and is completely speculating. Its just as viable that the retailers are dropping prices based on a natural progression of consumer demand. But then with Summer NAMM around the corner.....you just never know. And that's the point really....we do not know. |
you mean an updated hardware version of the Kronos that we CURRENTLY own? whoa... that would be horrible...
have you known companies to do things like this before? examples please. _________________ Please subscribe and follow me on Youtube and Facebook for information related audio technology.
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DennyC Platinum Member
Joined: 13 Dec 2008 Posts: 938 Location: Tucson, Az
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Posted: Wed Jul 11, 2012 5:01 am Post subject: |
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It seems like much too soon to give up on or put out an updated model. All of the current Kronos owners would be screaming. Korg has sold a lot of these now great keyboards. But...who knows? _________________ Kronos 2 61, Wavestation A/D, Yamaha Genos and others. |
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