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Night Spirit Full Member
Joined: 29 Nov 2011 Posts: 113
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Posted: Thu Jul 19, 2012 7:47 pm Post subject: I know its been posted but Kronos X upgrade to it or not? |
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Yea I know I have been missing since my last post, been busy but now the Kronos X has been announced I am back for more info. I have the opportunity to swap my old Kronos for the new Kronos X thanks to my lovely dealers. My main question is should I? I feel the Kronos X is quick mock up to phase out the old kronos issues and have peoples attention on the new gear to get minds off issues with old gear. Did they fix all the issues the old gear had? Did they cause more issues?
So lets get a pro's vs con's for us original Kronos owners and see is the X will mark the spot and influence us to upgrade or stay with what we got. |
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Laste7 Full Member
Joined: 26 Mar 2010 Posts: 147
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Posted: Thu Jul 19, 2012 7:52 pm Post subject: |
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I have a Kronos with 3GB and 120GB SSD.....this is already a Kronos XX....
I think the main question is, what your dealer wants you to pay.
If you don't care about your warranty, you can built in a bigger SSD and Memory on your own, cost about 60 Euros....and you have your Kronos X after the OS2 is released...of course, just if the Kronos you have now is working without any faults (Keybed, fan noise, etc.) _________________ She told me it was either her or the Kronos! I'm going to miss her... |
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Night Spirit Full Member
Joined: 29 Nov 2011 Posts: 113
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Posted: Thu Jul 19, 2012 8:17 pm Post subject: |
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I was also more concerned about the build, better quality better parts? Complete fixes to all the Issues with the Kronos..Keybed/Internal Noise/Velosity/Crashing/Fan Noise the list goes on and on.
Now having samples of the library is cool I will admit that, but we can just buy them our self's. The additional memory we all know we can do our self, and fan upgrades. But since I have had issues like many others my warranty is still needed. Personally I rather keep my Kronos since it will now be classic, and I can do the upgrade my self once the warranty is over anyway. Now if they offered something else that the Kronos can not do then I think that would be a bit more of a selling point.
But with the new OS 2.0 we will have the same versatility and control as the new KronosX, The only difference is upgraded memory and HD
But would be nice if they updated all the issues, better build and some NEW SOUNDS and features
Edit: Yes my current Cronos 88 does have issues, Keybed misfiring and triple noting, as well as internal noise issues where I have to run all internal setting at -25db or I will hear every single detail with the key strokes, damper, sustain extremely loud. Also have a very slight hissing in the tracks from the Krons that is only noticeable when I let notes ring out. So I do have to replace my Kronos for a new one that does have the updates to keybed and fixes to my issues. So I will have to do a swap just all depends do I swap to same Kronos Newer version, since Mine was the 2nd run of Kronos ever made. Or do I swap up to the X since I do have a free swap granted to me. |
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MarPabl Platinum Member
Joined: 24 Sep 2011 Posts: 938 Location: MX
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Posted: Thu Jul 19, 2012 11:44 pm Post subject: |
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Swap for Kronos X, you'll get easier resale value if needed, you'll save yourself the "upgrading" (if you even need it), you'll likely get all the fixes already applied, you'll get more time with warranty, you're getting all of this for free... no-brainer
Now I just can't swap mine because I have authorized many sound libraries. I can't transfer this authorization to a new Kronos _________________ Current gear: Access Virus TI2 Whiteout Keyboard (111/150), Access Virus TI2 Polar DarkStar Special Edition, Gibson Custom Lite 2013, Roland MV-8800 |
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Chriskk Senior Member
Joined: 10 May 2011 Posts: 349
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Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2012 12:30 am Post subject: |
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Swap it ASAP. Because of the X, the original Kronos loses its resale value. |
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Francois Approved Merchant
Joined: 06 May 2003 Posts: 4854 Location: Northants - UK
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Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2012 12:59 am Post subject: |
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Chriskk wrote: | Swap it ASAP. Because of the X, the original Kronos loses its resale value. |
Maybe, but it remains to be seen how much, especially if the original has already been upgraded in terms of RAM and SSD.
I'm happy to concede a drop in price for a stock unit, but probably not as much as what some people would have use think.
It will be up to the seller to make sure the potential buyers know that both machines are essentially the same platform with just ram, bigger ssd and a red X.
Plus, am I the only one who prefers the old serigraphy to the new one? I'm talking of the back one, not so much that of the top panel. So potential buyers might also prefer an upgraded Kronos rather than the one with the red X.
Apparently, some distributors are already thinking of producing a red sticker to be placed on machines that will have received the upgrade. _________________
Kronoscopie, tout sur le Kronos en français
http://www.kronoscopie.fr |
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blinkofanI Platinum Member
Joined: 17 May 2002 Posts: 776 Location: Quebec, Canada
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Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2012 1:49 am Post subject: |
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My god, guys,... me shouting: IT'S THE SAME KEYBOARD WITH "UPGRADED" UPGRADABLE PARTS. The X is 200$ more right now. How do you know you need the extra SSD space right now. My advice would be, buy the current model, save 200$, play with the Kronos right now and when you really need more space in 6 months or a year, fit a second SSD in there. At that time, a 120Gb SSD will probably be way cheaper than 200$. Unless you're not the kind of user who wants to open the thing up. Now, that would be understandable to exchange. But the human mind is a funny beast... Bigger is better...
Has it been confirmed that all issues(none that i had, btw) has been resolved on the new X? It's all speculations. The KronosX might even have bigger issues. Who knows.
My opinion, anyway.
Blink _________________ System 1: Korg Z1EX with UA Apollo Twin X and M1 Macbook Air. System 2: Korg Trinity V3 with HDR, DSI Mopho DT, Korg 01/W Pro, Soundcraft NotePad-8FX. |
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KronosX
Joined: 19 Jul 2012 Posts: 49
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Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2012 4:31 am Post subject: |
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That does make alot of sense.. Why buy a Kronos X that has two 30gb drives that will create more heat flowing off the powersupply and as the fan blows across makes more heat build up from the heat of the constantly streaming drives. It makes sense to buy a 120gb drive for 70.00. To just update and upgrade yourself.
If you have 3 buddies that all have Kronos and you all buy additional EX sample sets? Do you think there is anything wrong with sharing activation codes? Is there like a rule to this? |
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blinkofanI Platinum Member
Joined: 17 May 2002 Posts: 776 Location: Quebec, Canada
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Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2012 2:30 pm Post subject: |
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KronosX wrote: |
If you have 3 buddies that all have Kronos and you all buy additional EX sample sets? Do you think there is anything wrong with sharing activation codes? Is there like a rule to this? |
Mmm, do you really want an answer for this?
Blink _________________ System 1: Korg Z1EX with UA Apollo Twin X and M1 Macbook Air. System 2: Korg Trinity V3 with HDR, DSI Mopho DT, Korg 01/W Pro, Soundcraft NotePad-8FX. |
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Davidb Platinum Member
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Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2012 2:30 pm Post subject: |
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blinkofanI wrote: |
Has it been confirmed that all issues(none that i had, btw) has been resolved on the new X? |
Nope.
Not really.
No official word about it, nor it will be, as usual.
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It's all speculations. The KronosX might even have bigger issues. Who knows.
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Completely true, Blink. _________________ Regards.
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dfahrner Platinum Member
Joined: 21 Jun 2008 Posts: 571 Location: Bend, OR
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Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2012 3:22 pm Post subject: |
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Night Spirit wrote: | ...as well as internal noise issues where I have to run all internal setting at -25db or I will hear every single detail with the key strokes, damper, sustain extremely loud. |
If you're talking about noise on the SGX-1 pianos, you can adjust the volume of damper and mechanical noise components...the first thing I did when I got my KRONOS was turn down the volume of the piano noise components by a few dB...
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michelkeijzers Approved Merchant
Joined: 08 Feb 2007 Posts: 9113 Location: Netherlands
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Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2012 3:27 pm Post subject: |
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dfahrner wrote: | Night Spirit wrote: | ...as well as internal noise issues where I have to run all internal setting at -25db or I will hear every single detail with the key strokes, damper, sustain extremely loud. |
If you're talking about noise on the SGX-1 pianos, you can adjust the volume of damper and mechanical noise components...the first thing I did when I got my KRONOS was turn down the volume of the piano noise components by a few dB...
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Do you hear it when you play directly from the Kronos or when using another keyboard MIDI wired to it?
In the last case, a velocity of 127 is used making the noises even harder. _________________
Developer of the free PCG file managing application for most Korg workstations: PCG Tools, see https://www.kronoshaven.com/pcgtools/ |
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curvebender Platinum Member
Joined: 26 Jun 2007 Posts: 784 Location: Sweden
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Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2012 3:52 pm Post subject: |
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KronosX wrote: | If you have 3 buddies that all have Kronos and you all buy additional EX sample sets? Do you think there is anything wrong with sharing activation codes? Is there like a rule to this? |
You can't "share" activation codes.
They are linked to the machine ID of any given Kronos. _________________ Paul: Don't be nervous.
John: I'M NOT NERVOUS!!! |
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dfahrner Platinum Member
Joined: 21 Jun 2008 Posts: 571 Location: Bend, OR
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Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2012 4:05 pm Post subject: |
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michelkeijzers wrote: | Do you hear it when you play directly from the Kronos or when using another keyboard MIDI wired to it?
In the last case, a velocity of 127 is used making the noises even harder. |
You're right, I was playing the KRONOS piano from an external weighted keyboard that didn't send release velocity, so the piano release "noises" were set to maximum...hmmm, maybe that's one reason why the KRONOS pianos sound better on a 73 / 88 with the built-in RH3 keybed... |
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Melodialworks Music Platinum Member
Joined: 23 Feb 2003 Posts: 522
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Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2012 5:00 pm Post subject: |
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KronosX wrote: | Do you think there is anything wrong with sharing activation codes? |
Yes, it is totally wrong. It's call theft. |
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