Anyone having issues with wavesequences conflicts?

NuSkoolTone · Post by **NuSkoolTone** » Sat Jan 31, 2015 6:46 am

As I add more libraries, it seems lately that wavesequences are an issue.
What I mean by that is when I load multiple libraries, they overwrite each other and programs point to the wrong ones. I'm noticing this between EXs16 and EXs19.

Is there a known solution?

jimknopf · Post by **jimknopf** » Sat Jan 31, 2015 9:02 am

Confirmed: the same has happened here with library installs casually.

Intersted in a solution as well.

Jeremy Bender · Post by **Jeremy Bender** » Sat Jan 31, 2015 9:44 am

I also seem to have an issue with combis including tape strings and tape choir programs which now seem to come with a rhythmic "knocking" piano sound in the background as well...very odd.

If I manually select the program in the combi and change it by selecting either another tape strings prog or the same one again (i.e. reselect it) its fine!

Any ideas please?
Thanks
Steve

burningbusch · Post by **burningbusch** » Sat Jan 31, 2015 4:11 pm

Here's what I found on my system, either loaded into Wave sequence memory or on SSD.

EXs-19 (U-G) 000 - 031
EXs-11 (U-B), (U-C), (U-D), (U-E) 000-025
EXs-15 (U-G) 000-005
EXs-16 (U-G) 000--031
EXs-18 (U-F) 000-012
KRS-07 (U-F) 000 - 012

As you can see the big conflict is in U-G with EXs-19, 16 and 15 all hitting it. The odd thing is, on my system, EXs-16 is loaded into U-CC. I'm not sure how that happened.

If you hear the rhythmic knocking, that's because the program is referencing an INIT WAVE SEQUENCE.

Busch.

xp50player · Post by **xp50player** » Sat Jan 31, 2015 6:00 pm

Kronos does not intelligently merge new libraries with whatever is in the machine, it overwrites what is there. You can manually select Program bank locations when you load them and change the Combi program references later to match the program bank location.

If the new file has wave sequences and drumkits, you need to merge the file with your own existing sounds, using the editor. The editor has a "holding tank" kind of thing which allows you to bring one or more Combis, Programs and all their child objects into another file without overwriting anything. PCGtools is another editor , but I don't know if it will merge wave sequence banks.

burningbusch · Post by **burningbusch** » Sat Jan 31, 2015 7:32 pm

OK, I figured out how this works. I should have known this but I haven't paid much attention to the wave sequence area.

For example, EXs16 Funk and Soul Brass defaults to loading Program data into User-G. If you goto your EXs16 Funk and Soul Brass folder, select the PCG and click on LOAD and then accept ALL, it will load the Program data and Wave Sequence data into User-G.

If instead, you don't select ALL but specifically select User-G and now select a different bank in the TO: field, e.g. User-AA, both the Program and Wave Sequence data will be loaded into User-AA, eliminating the conflict.

Busch.

NuSkoolTone · Post by **NuSkoolTone** » Sat Jan 31, 2015 10:04 pm

burningbusch wrote:OK, I figured out how this works. I should have known this but I haven't paid much attention to the wave sequence area.

For example, EXs16 Funk and Soul Brass defaults to loading Program data into User-G. If you goto your EXs16 Funk and Soul Brass folder, select the PCG and click on LOAD and then accept ALL, it will load the Program data and Wave Sequence data into User-G.

If instead, you don't select ALL but specifically select User-G and now select a different bank in the TO: field, e.g. User-AA, both the Program and Wave Sequence data will be loaded into User-AA, eliminating the conflict.

Busch.

That's useful Thank you. Will have to try. Any ideas on the scenario where programs get scattered throughout banks? Typically I don't have a swath of programs to just wipe out. Often I do them piecemeal these days!

burningbusch · Post by **burningbusch** » Sun Feb 01, 2015 12:34 am

OK, so going back to the example above where I loaded the Program and Wave Sequences in User-AA.

Now save the PCG, saving only Programs and Wave Sequences for User-AA (nothing else selected) and name it something like EXs 16 User-AA.PCG. Now let's say you want to load that instead to User-CC but keep the Wave Sequences in User-AA.

Find "Exs 16 User-AA.PCG". Click OPEN and with PROGRAMS selected click OPEN again. With BANK U-AA selected click on LOAD. Change the TO: selection to BANK U-CC. This loads only the programs. The wave sequences in the program will point to the wave sequences in User-AA. If you want to load individual programs you would have pressed OPEN one more time to get to the program list and you could load individual programs anywhere.

So this effectively allows you to change where the wave sequences get placed and once you've done that you can load the programs anywhere and they'll point to the proper wave sequences.

Busch.

media-igor · Post by **media-igor** » Sun Feb 01, 2015 10:03 am

Today I installed and authorized KRS-07 and noted that the program U-BB66 - U-BB68 link to empty banks Wave Sequences: I-141 - I-144. Maybe it's me breaking the bank Wave Sequences (I have installed Int 000 - 139, Int 140-149 - Init Wave Sequence). Looked in the archive PRELOAD_V2.PCG - there as well!
Somebody set KRS-07? Check how you do.

NuSkoolTone · Post by **NuSkoolTone** » Thu Jun 25, 2015 4:51 am

burningbusch wrote:OK, I figured out how this works. I should have known this but I haven't paid much attention to the wave sequence area.

For example, EXs16 Funk and Soul Brass defaults to loading Program data into User-G. If you goto your EXs16 Funk and Soul Brass folder, select the PCG and click on LOAD and then accept ALL, it will load the Program data and Wave Sequence data into User-G.

If instead, you don't select ALL but specifically select User-G and now select a different bank in the TO: field, e.g. User-AA, both the Program and Wave Sequence data will be loaded into User-AA, eliminating the conflict.

Busch.

Hey, perhaps this is old news, but just wanted to update. Finally did a concrete test with my new Kronos and it works a treat!

Thanks again.