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Top of my list is still to be able to
1: route a miditrack back to Karma
but here are two new ones, to
2: queue RPPR's in advance, to be played in sequence
and to
3: route a miditrack back to RPPR and then RPPR's output to Karma

There are so many ways to route all kinds of signals in O, and i love it, but i cant help myself, i still want to route more ;-)
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In Seq mode could we have the <<REW and FF>> buttons work when the seq is'nt playing just to browse forwards and backwards without the need to highlight the song position and then use the Rotary Dial.

Would be most welcome.
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Post by master logic »

Fener wrote:Important : :D

The possibility to create own sequences/patterns in KARMA.
I know that Stephen Kay is already walking on this feature with Korg.

Marco.
This would be a must for me too, i very rarely use karma, simply because i feel like i'm cheating.
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master logic wrote:
Fener wrote:Important : :D

The possibility to create own sequences/patterns in KARMA.
I know that Stephen Kay is already walking on this feature with Korg.

Marco.
This would be a must for me too, i very rarely use karma, simply because i feel like i'm cheating.
then ? tell me ? why did you bought an Oasys?

just curious :wink:
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Whilst Karma is very cool ... it's not the only cool thing on the Oasys by any means.
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Daz wrote:Whilst Karma is very cool ... it's not the only cool thing on the Oasys by any means.
That is for sure, one of the best " thing" we do have is...........




a very nice and talented :D





D A Z...................... or, almost does it all



yes, you are right, an Oasys is also more then a Karma, but, still curious....
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mozartella wrote:
master logic wrote:
Fener wrote:Important : :D

The possibility to create own sequences/patterns in KARMA.
I know that Stephen Kay is already walking on this feature with Korg.

Marco.
This would be a must for me too, i very rarely use karma, simply because i feel like i'm cheating.
then ? tell me ? why did you bought an Oasys?

just curious :wink:
I still do not have the OASYS, I'm planning to purchase it.
I'm "just browsing" around here to keep me updated.

KARMA is one of the main wonderful features of this machine and it has a big library of over 2000 GEs, but as I know is not possible to create and save own GEs.
In the previous KORG machines (like TRITON) is possible to create and save your own arpegggiator patterns.

I know that is possible to modify the present GEs in thowsands of ways and this already give infinite possibilities.
But sometimes people need to have different patterns, create your own and save it as one more possible GE should be allowed.
Teorically, KARMA could import a Standard MIDI file (not too long, of course) or record a pattern driven by an external sequencer. Imagine. 8)

This feature is also discussed in KARMA-LAB
http://www.karma-lab.com/forum/showthre ... eadid=7612

Regards.

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Fener wrote:I still do not have the OASYS, I'm planning to purchase it.
I'm "just browsing" around here to keep me updated.

KARMA is one of the main wonderful features of this machine and it has a big library of over 2000 GEs, but as I know is not possible to create and save own GEs.
In the previous KORG machines (like TRITON) is possible to create and save your own arpegggiator patterns.

I know that is possible to modify the present GEs in thowsands of ways and this already give infinite possibilities.
But sometimes people need to have different patterns, create your own and save it as one more possible GE should be allowed.
Teorically, KARMA could import a Standard MIDI file (not too long, of course) or record a pattern driven by an external sequencer. Imagine. 8)

This feature is also discussed in KARMA-LAB
http://www.karma-lab.com/forum/showthre ... eadid=7612
I agree with you. Actually, my KARMA Software (PC/Mac) already has this SMF import capability somewhat. This feature dould possibly be added to the OASYS. I hope so, in the future. And more discussion here:
http://www.karma-lab.com/forum/showthre ... eadid=8023
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I would also agree - as per my many comments in the thread referred to by Stephen above.


To summarise: I think that one of the most requested functions is an easy to program (presumably pattern/matrix based) drum machine. To me it would be a shame if the Oasys designers didn't link this directly to the Karma drum modules and RPPR.
To link them would intuitively tie all the existing facilities together to create a top notch drum machine; with a huge functionality compared to existing soft/hard synth equivalents.
[If they're not linked with the existing Karma/RPPR then I'm sure it will be good; just not as elegant/easy to use as if they were linked and you'd always have the dilemma of should you start with Karma, or with RPPR, or with the drum module].
As explained, if programmed linking in with the global settings, this would be like adding another 20 midi tracks (just for drums) which would appease the need for extra midi tracks.


This would be my #1 request.

Following this, and sometimes repeating other posts for emphasis - this would be my wish list in order.

2) Audio meters (perhaps as a separate page) - I just love being able to look at combis / seq and see what is actually producing sound. Ideally I'd like to see audio going into and out of all effects as well.
3) Adjusting all of Karma settings in Oasys.
3b) External control - abilitiy to change messages other than just CCs. Ability to make the buttons behave just like tone adust (ie that they can be set to transmit a variable amount).
4) General sequencer enhancements the top ones being:
a) Piano roll editing
b) linking of songs
c) Reason-like pattern editor assignable to tracks for ultra quick groove generation
4) I like the idea of HD1 as an EXi already mentioned.
5) I like the idea of using pads to send midi messages.
6) I would pay for a pitch correction EXf
6b) Some cool sound mangling EXfs
7) File names > 8 characters
8) Sleep mode
9) Stereo samples in RAM to be transferred to HDR with a single command rather than the convoluted way today.
10) More banks (possibly using different colours on bank switches)
11) Using more of the keys in SEQ track edit mode (FF REW for start, but banks switches could also be used as locators).

That's all I could think of for now - I think I've left out a couple. Obviously Santa's not going to bring all of these come NAMM, but would be nice to see a few. I remain very excited about the Oasys concept and certainly the sound is absolutely brilliant. If the same creativity/standards came to some of the drum programming/sequencing then the platform will be outstaning in all areas.

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I placed this in Domc "Mixing drum sounds" thread and thought may as well put it down as a wish or at least an idea....

...what if Korg could make Parameters available in Tone Adjust that when you select a Drum Kit you could assign Drum Voices or their Note values with volume/velocity cntrl to the Eight Sliders,that way you could assign your Drum Kit to one track but have the sliders act as like a mini mixer for your kit and because its Tone Adjust the midi channel restriction would'nt apply.

So as an example

You select your drum kit say on Track 10,hit tone adjust on the control surface and then assign C2 to slider one;D2 to slider two;F2 to slider 3 etc etc but the slider also controls that voices volume within the kit not using midi volume.

That way you would have volume cntrl of say Kick Drum,Snare Drum,Hi hats etc etc da get my drift and have realtime control as the sequence is playing.You would only need one track as well.Yes you would be limited to eight notes but its enough for Drum kit arrangement,the perc and other drum voices could be balanced around these sliders maybe.Just a thought.

Anyone else think that would be useful?Would that be possible?
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thekeymaster wrote:...what if Korg could make Parameters available in Tone Adjust that when you select a Drum Kit you could assign Drum Voices or their Note values with volume/velocity cntrl to the Eight Sliders,that way you could assign your Drum Kit to one track but have the sliders act as like a mini mixer for your kit and because its Tone Adjust the midi channel restriction would'nt apply.

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Would that be possible?
It's a good idea, and anything is possible, but it would require some structural changes. Ultimately, I'd like to see all of this stuff directly editable in multitimbral contexts, but that will probably take a while to accomplish.

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danatkorg wrote:It's a good idea, and anything is possible, but it would require some structural changes. Ultimately, I'd like to see all of this stuff directly editable in multitimbral contexts, but that will probably take a while to accomplish.

- Dan
really?

I do think you are right about structural points...

But....

Ultimately....

No!
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I did some programming with my Oasys yesterday morning and came to a very weird situation and got an idea. It might suck, but nevertheless... :)
How about if we had a multiple keyboard zone split possibility within a COMBI mode? What I mean is this... I had a situation where I wanted to have the same sound (let's say it's a string sound) from E1-E2 and from E4-E5. Within the limits of the current system, to do that I have to use two channels and copy the same sound (string sound) twice, assign effects, use different zones etc. This could be achieved by playing around with layering (velocity zones), but when you're dealing with velocity zones and multiple sounds with them, your destiny is to be overloaded with attention while playing something live.

How about that one?
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vEddY wrote:I did some programming with my Oasys yesterday morning and came to a very weird situation and got an idea. It might suck, but nevertheless... :)
How about if we had a multiple keyboard zone split possibility within a COMBI mode? What I mean is this... I had a situation where I wanted to have the same sound (let's say it's a string sound) from E1-E2 and from E4-E5. Within the limits of the current system, to do that I have to use two channels and copy the same sound (string sound) twice, assign effects, use different zones etc.
This is quite a workable solution as is. Consider the number of times a user would actually want to have two completely different key zones on the same sound. It's just not a situation that comes up a lot. It would be more useful for zoning drum kits, but again, given the current procedure of simply using another timbre, I can't see how important it would be. And then, how many is enough? two potential zones per timbre? 3? Then you have to implement top key, bot key, slope for each of those additional zones, most of which will never be used, and it becomes a rather huge change, just to satisfy something that can be done by using another timbre. ;)

Rather, I wish there were a Page Menu command to easily copy one timbre to another. :)
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StephenKay wrote: Rather, I wish there were a Page Menu command to easily copy one timbre to another. :)
OK, agreed. I could live with this :) I know that this multiple-zone thing was a bit off, but - you know, you can wish :)
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