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tonybanks wrote:To have a "big recap page" of all the AMS sources/address used in a prog/combi.
Just what I was thinking last night!! :D

That would be a very welcome addition.
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Suggestion Note pad

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Hi, my name is David and I'm new in this forum.
I'm a Italian pianist/keyboard player.
I've just bought a Korg Oasys 88 and I have an idea to propose:
it could be very usuful to have in "combi" mode an option to have on the screen a note pad where you can write all your suggestion for that setup.
This is because in a oncert I use 15/20 "combis" for every song so instead of remembering how I programmed my controllers (sliders,joystick,switches,ecc.) I could read my notes for example:

slider1: volume organ
slider 2: volume piano
switch1: intro sample
ecc.

It could be a nice idea to use the touch pad to write with your fingers...
Sorry for my poor English.
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What I'd really is a way of feeding audio directly from EXi1 to EXi2 in a Program, allow me to pull up such a such a Program as a self-contained "unit" in combi mode without stealing one of the precious busses.

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6-Stage Envelopes and Best of Triton Module ...

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Well...
I've been a Korgie (kuser, Korg dude, korgophile?) for a lifetime now. From the Poly61 and KPR rthymer, little keyboard vocoder, to the Poly800/EX800, Wavestation, to the Triton Extreme and now the Oasys, it's been a long strange trip, baby.

I have both a Triton Extreme 61 (traded down from EX88), and the beautiful Oasys88.

My wish list:
1) can we get past ADSR? I loved the Korg Poly800 and DW8000 series for those 6-stage ADHSR which made some amazing sounds - this is a critical element to not sound like "all the other ROMplers and virtuals" out there which seem stuck on ADSR.
2) it would be nice to have a Wavestation LAC module since it's already wavestation-ish
3) menu banks which are a little more spiffy ... would be nice to boot up and be able to have a visual representation of a our "virtual analog" our "virtual organ," our "virtual piano" and our "ROMpler" and be able to push the Organ icon, and then have the first user banks be all Organ stuff, or all analog stuff - both combis and patches - this would make it a little more like you're switching on your organ supersynth, or your analog super synth - I always feel like I'm grappling an octopus turning this thing on and it's not always clear WHAT I'm working with unless I'm in a specific patch.
4) dual arpeggators for patches would ne nice
5) port more patches - seems weird to have a MonoPoly/MS20 and a virtual analog, and only have 128 patches on board for this monster possible system
6) while it IS a new instrument, new direction, blah blah ... somehow Ithought I'd be able to replace my Triton Exteme, and that was not the case ... after I played with this a week I bought a used Extreme61 because I missed my 88. I'm not sure if it's the limited number of combis, or patches pr what .. but I'd pay to have a "best of Triton/Trinity/Prophecy" module - lots of great sounds there (hey, take the 160MB ROM from the Triton Extreme, give it a virtual tube section, and make that a module for the Oasys! My credit card is ready now!!!!

Other than that ... love it. Still digging into it, getting the feel of what it can do. Quite cool.

Keep up the great work!

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Re: 6-Stage Envelopes and Best of Triton Module ...

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neotrope wrote:1) can we get past ADSR? I loved the Korg Poly800 and DW8000 series for those 6-stage ADHSR which made some amazing sounds - this is a critical element to not sound like "all the other ROMplers and virtuals" out there which seem stuck on ADSR.
Just a note: the standard OASYS EGs are more complex than those of the DW8000.

The DW8000 EG had two levels (breakpoint and sustain) and four times (attack, decay, slope, and release). Start and release levels were always zero, and attack level was always max. The standard OASYS EGs have five levels (start, attack, breakpoint, sustain, and release) and four times (attack, decay, slope, and release - like the DW8000).
neotrope wrote:5) port more patches - seems weird to have a MonoPoly/MS20 and a virtual analog, and only have 128 patches on board for this monster possible system
Note that you can download more MS-20EX/PolysixEX sounds at www.korguser.net!

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Re: 6-Stage Envelopes and Best of Triton Module ...

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neotrope wrote:1) can we get past ADSR?
What's your ideal concept for an alternate form of envelope generator?
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portamento on individual wave sequence steps please.
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Hi all...
guess I need to RTFM :-)
Time to crack the pages on the "phone book" and explore a bit more before asking for things already in there someplace. Right ?

As to my ideal ADSR type thing...
well, I loved the way the Poly 800 could do a percussive envelope, sustain a moment then bring in a rising string sound... I've loved the idea of the AHSDAR or whatever the heck that was. Obviously with layers and combis this can be replicated, but I always liked the idea fo more complex envelopes from a single patch since software-based technology can support this kind of thing (and there are many VSTi s now that do this, and the Alesis Andromeda has that extra stage - I've got the knobs right here...)

I'm not complaining... tons of power in there.

Just didn't hear any patches off the bat that made me go... whoa, multi-stage envelope at work. Obviously this isn't something I am looking for in relation to the piano, organ or the like, but for the AL1 analog module (EXSi, whatever), it would be nice to have that.

Of course, somebody pointed out that the POly800 was "paraphonic" and ran all the notes through one EG vs an EG for each note (or something like that), but I still thought it was cool. I like the Andromeda envelopes also.

Of course I still need to RTFM as I still don't know how to assign my "favorites" to a bank yet, either :-) Dig the favorites checkbox - cool idea :-)

I'm excited to see what's next with the Oasys. I haven't recorded with it yet, and hope to start something on Labor Day weekend coming up. Yay!

Thank you for all the replies. In case nobody has thanked you folks lately (at Korg). THANK YOU for the wonderful documentation that comes with all your gear, it's still the best in the business in my opinion. In-depth, but with plenty of illustrations, and not a skinny primer then 3,000 pages on CD.
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You can do the hold thing with the envelopes on the Oasys, maybe the stage names are confusing you, because in reality you can effectively use the stages (except sustain) for something other than what their names suggest.

What's really great about the Oasys envelopes is not just the stages available, but the ability to change the curve of each and the ability to modulate the level/time of each in some very detailed ways. That's key to creating expressing and interesting sounds. They go well beyond the average ADSR :-)

If improvements could be made to them, then some of the ideas used in Absynth's EG's would be very welcome.

I also rather like the feature on the Access synths where the sustain stage can be configured with a up/down slope. I've not seen that on a lot of gear, and don't fully understand how that works ... but I do rather like the effect it has with some sounds :-)

Speaking of envelopes. How about an envelope for the effects like the LFO's that are provided. Might be handy.
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Post by SonicSpeed »

Hello Boys... and Girls!

My wish list

--- SEQUENCER
32 Midi Tracks ( and not just 16 )
32 IFXs, 1 for every Midi Track ( and not just 12 )
Increased resolution ( at least 480PPQ )

--- BIGGER HARD DISK ( at least 80GB )

--- MORE RAM ( at least 2GB )

--- 24bit/96Khz for Audio Recording

--- ETHERNET

--- MORE GREAT SOUNDS ( You guys at Korg are the best! Keep up the good work! )
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tonybanks wrote:To have a "big recap page" of all the AMS sources/address used in a prog/combi.
Yes Please...

A dedicated modulation matrix screen for Programs would be wonderful. VIRsyn's TERA has/had this and it really makes tracing/programming modulation routings perfectly simple.

It's just a screen with a bunch of cells (looks kind of like the Control Surface/Tone Adjust screen on the OASYS but it is not the same thing). Each cell contains:

-a pop-up for choosing/viewing a modulation source (LFO, velocity, EG, wheel...etc)
-a pop-up for choosing/viewing a source's destination (pitch, cutoff, LFO, vol...etc)
-a field for changing/viewing the source's intensity.

I realize that it may take more than 1 tab for really complex Programs but those are the Programs that really need it.

Programs in the OASYS have zillions of modulation routings available but it's really hard to keep track of them. More often than not, I can hear something being modulated by something, but the modulation routings are so numerous, it's always a tedious chore to track it down. A screen showing all active modulation source/destinations would greatly help. It would also aid in programming. Just seeing all of the Modulation sources so close to all the different destinations is a real eye-opener to the modulation possibilities available in an OASYS Program.
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Post by tonybanks »

Put the rename tool icon "T" at least near to the sample name in sampling page.
That will let the user to rename immediately the sample (instead of opening the scroll down menù and select the rename option).
This will also make it easier (or time effective) the sampling plan.

I do not know how you do, but I build the multisound before start sampling (so I decide how many samples I have to take and give each sample its name)
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Post by Rainer »

Hi Ski, a serious answer to your question on exciting new designs of EG-generators for the oasys. Look at Bruce Duncan's page of Modcan synthesziers. There you find the answer. He has two brilliant digital EG-generators. This is what the oasys could easily adopt. Rainer
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There's a new exciting update to be announced in a day or so, but still I'd like to make a wish..

It would be nice if the fader LED's could show levels of sequencer tracks and combi tracks in real time. You know, pumping with the music, or with what you play.

It's difficult sometimes to get a grasp on what channels in a combi, for example, are actually producing the sound.

I haven't missed something in the manual, have I?.. :?
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curvebender wrote:There's a new exciting update to be announced in a day or so, but still I'd like to make a wish..

It would be nice if the fader LED's could show levels of sequencer tracks and combi tracks in real time. You know, pumping with the music, or with what you play.

It's difficult sometimes to get a grasp on what channels in a combi, for example, are actually producing the sound.

I haven't missed something in the manual, have I?.. :?
agree! it's ok for the knobs but not for the faders or i'm missing something too :wink:
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