PCM load time - NEWS!

[Asena]

HI,Rob Sherratt----

Tnx for replaying.

Yes The old GEM WK series has that, but only 8 MB of Dram.
But thats an old KB, from 1999.We are in 2007, and the componenets are better now and not so expensive.

There is on more thing, you say that KORG loads the built in sounds direct, we can not do so much whit that, We can edit them, ans so,I mean SAMPLES that we found on net, or samples that we make self, That is a great thing , like SHARP,s library, some maded for 64 MB, or better piano samples, If i like them, and load them in to my PA2X i dont wanto waist my time for LOADING TIME.
So how long time do i NEED for loading 256 MB of samples, ???
After boting,
Is this KB not like the PA800, 90 Seconds, from POWER on whit 64 MB?
180 seconds for 128 MB is ok for me!
If i like to heave my samples, than 180 sec, are ok.
But if i like to load 128 MB in 8 Minutes , whit a KB, From 2007 than there is something wrong.

Is there any plan to make upgrades for faster loading?
I heave The PA1XElite now, 32 mb of RAM is to litle and takes 4 min to load each time i will play!
Some times on the stage i must reboot, couse of difrent SET,s And must take several times Break/Paus
So thats why i will like to buy a 2X, for faster loading, Like PA800, Better sample Ram 128/256, And better LCD, Styles, Voices, and so.
Hope this new KB is ok, If not KORG is a History for me, I Tested Liontracs And evrything is possible on that KB.
There is nothing you can,t do.
So, i dunno what KB is my Next, I hope It will be KORG again, Couse i now this wery well.
Old styles , samples sounds and all will be fine, I HOPE
Just tell me how long loading time for 128 MB,
And if there is any plan on better Sample RAm,s lOS etc...
Thanx for all help.
Best Reg
ASENA

[Rob Sherratt]

Hi Asena,

I think Paolo Tramannoni said in a previous post that Korg plan to sell "protected samples, sounds and styles" on a USB pen drive for both the Pa800 and the Pa2x. The way it will work is that you plug in the USB pen drive and you then load the contents of the USB pen drive into your sample RAM.

I expect they will use a special algorithm to store and load the samples, and it may be that they will achieve faster load times that way. Also my guess is that there will be an autoload procedure introduced in a new release of the OS. We will have to wait and see.

I think that on the Pa2x it would be possible to structure your live act so that each .set file loads say 16 Mbytes of samples into RAM, instead of loading all your sounds in one large .set file. Loading 16 Mbytes of samples will only take 35 seconds, and so long as you are good with the jokes and back chat, the audience won't notice. Then after loading 10 set files you would have 160 Mbytes of samples available and you can instantly switch between the sounds without any more delays.

If I was using my Pa1xPro in gigs, I would buy two of the new 16 Mbyte EXB-PROM cards from Germany together with a PC-based programmer (costing about 600 Euros) and I would keep my act structured so I make do with the 32 Mbytes samples in the PROM cards. I would not want the risk of a power failure and then a long delay while I wait for samples to load to RAM.

Best regards,
Rob

[Asena]

DEAR Rob ...
Thank you,
Just back from my gig, My dad was so proud.
I,m god on this.
One Q for you, I heave my set,32 MB And would like to mowe them like you explain to EXB ,s What unit do you mean, What program and so, Can you Explain in PM.
Thanx.

[Rob Sherratt]

Dear Asina,

Congrats on your Gig, especially in front of your Dad! It takes a lot of courage, especially the first few times!

The Manufacturer of the new reprogrammable 16 Mb EXB cards for the Triton and the Pa1x, is Musitronics. I know they were looking for retailers, maybe there would be sufficient interest from this user group to organise a bulk purchase and negotiate some discount. The retail price is about 150 Euros. Your Pa1x can take two cards, they are installed in the two right most slots beneath the lower cover.

Send an email to the following address and ask for Oliver Schwartz

info@musitronics.de

Oliver will program the boards up to your specification, or he can supply a PC-based programmer which I think costs about 200 Euros.

Best regards,
Rob Sherratt

[robkeith]

Love your demo's on Korg TV, have ordered a pa2x pro, and they tell me should hopefully be in late November. Could you please do some more demos, or film some of the tour spots with the keyboard, particulary more modern up to date tunes, and love the electric guitars, keep up the good work

[Asena]

HI FORUM, HI ROB...
Thank you for your kind words,
I realy hope that KORG can give out USB,s whit great Sounds and Set,s.
The KB,s sounds superb but Styles litle to much from 80,s 90,s.
We realy need New creavitiy for making better things.
Please Just listen to M3, sounds and Styles, Its not a KB , but its rocking.
We can Use this!
So i realy hope that they can make Sample based Styles and set,s.
BYE 4 NOW!

[robkeith]

Its intreresting, I started with the Korg i3, earn't a lot of dough, it was cutting edge back then, then I was deffinately swayed by Yamaha to the Tyros 1, loved it, but there was something about it that, didn't quite gel, then because I believed that the Yammy had the pace, I moved to the Tyros 2, in the belief that Yammy would use thier internet technology to make it better, and firmware it's bad ass right to the limit, still something re the yammy wasn't quite right, i mean the sa voices were great etc, but no real major upgrade to this point, and if yammy want to check the forums, there are a lot of miffed tyros players still waiting for the updates that count, and i think will not come, maybe in Tyros 3 or whatever they will call it. I really had to delve into my i3, which i still have, and ask myself, what made this so great. And wallah!!!!! the korg backings tend to make the performer vocally the centre of the music, there seems to be a looseness in a great way, that gives the Korg the better and more realistic live feel, I mean bands like to be tight, but there needs to be a small guessing game going on in the audiences mind, and the Yamnmy was too far over the top. So I'm back to the PA2xpro as soon as it arrives, and understand that its not just the backings tightness, but its the overall upgradability along with the customer focus to imrove not only the keyboards that they have sold, but also maintain the new ones they sell. Thats why i'm back to Korg, and probably wont stray for some time yet, ps i have the Audya SD3 module and I hope that Ketron is going to make the Audya easier to navigate, so I'm not sure that this would be an answer for me, and also there is only one retailer in Australia, so if a problem happens I dont want to be out of pocket for too long when its down etc. I wish them well, but i think the secrecy could be a downfall for them, get all the video and demo's out there Ketron if you can, because it looks as though Korg may have trumped you here.

[karmathanever]

G'day mate

......I started with the Korg i3.....

Great story - me too - the i3 rapidly pulled me away from Yams and Rolands - I still think the i3 is superb. Did you ever see Korg's promo video on the i3? It featured Stephen Kay singing and performing on the i2 - that guy is a legend. I still use some of my i3 styles on my PA1XPro. When the i3 arrived, my local dealer John Reynolds at that time, called me and said "you've got to come down and hear this Korg" - I walked in to the store and he hit me with the "Big Band" style (note that this style is still a standard style on the PA1XPro!!) - I was blown away and "had" to buy it - then the i30 and now the PA1XPro. Tested lots of others along the way - Roland G70, Yam 9000 etc.. but nothing comes close.

I may be biased but I think you've made a very good choice and one you will not regret....

All the best

Pete (WA)

[Asena]

Hi, It,s great that we can hold up this forum whit great and unforgetible memories from Furtune.
I realy think KORG is a great Unit, but if they heave the knowledge from the old time than they can use this great futures on the new KB,s.
I hopo they can make PA2X better and better whit OS, and maybee hardware in future.
Just think, who dont want new better sounding BIG BAND, like an orchestra side of you!
Please just listen to some of the old stuf, I3, I 30, And so, this KB,s are stil great in function and so. PAX series are awesome, but i just wanna say that the styles can be better whit just litle tweaking.
So thats why we are in need of the RAM/ROM and so.
We cant wait for loading time, if we are entertainers than we must be on the go people.
Thanx for al replays.

[robkeith]

yeah the i3 was and still is great keyboard, allthough it has lost its value badly, so much so that i wont part with it for the sake of getting rid of it. I think the best one does in Australia if you can find a buyer is approx $300, right now i'm using it with a module and it still has some moves. I wonder if Sartorius is going to do some more pa2x pro demo's, and if you go to video's my space you'll find some max tempia pa2x pro demos, which show more features sound and variables in the pa2x. Thanks once again, great to be here

[Asena]

He , I was thinking, Why there is not so much info about the PA2X models, Even from the first beginnig there was many people that did not belived its coming, even me
Now the lie is true , but not so much info?
What can this unit do more, we dont heave any correct info, sounds, set, samples, mem, and so.Specialy the USB pen sounds/Samples
Do we heave to load 256 mb from USB pen, for using it, or is the samples redeble from USB direct?
We know 256 mb is max, we know there is better EQ, and so.But i stil wonder how its load time is.
I just wanna know how long 128 MB takes to load for the gig.

Stil in love whit the pa1XElite
BEST REG.
ASENA