Wish list for the v2.5 KP3 update..?

[Zedius]

as a practical measure i find having a black machine with black buttons quite stylish but very stupid in a performance situation. I would like it if ALL buttons were very dimly lit at all times so they can be seen - often I am really guessing where the mute and pad motion buttons are in the dark

apart from that i agree the drum programs are useless

for me the synth programs are also useless because they all have exactly the same loud stereo delay and unlike the delays on the other programs it cannot be disabled with the slider - why? I guess someone programmed this while he was on the phone to his grlfriend - its very shoddy Mr Korg and its time to put it right

over and out

R

You seem to use your pad record a lot, and you use your mute? May I ask how you are using these? I haven't found a functional use for them yet. I find with the mute I don't like how it mutes the input, and with the pad record I don't like how it plays back immediately. Also, I often find that it's hard to record a pad movement that will repeat rhythmically. That may just take practice. But it would be nice to set the pad movement to start on the downbeat, or offset, or whatever. Instead of just repeating immediately.

I'm curious how you use it though, not trying to argue whether it's useful or not. It obviously is useful for you.

I find the drums pretty cool, if I get creative with them. On their own they are pretty bad, but the first 3 or 4 can be pretty cool if I resample them a few times through different effects.

Edit: If we are still adding stuff to the list at all, I think it would be fantastic if, when cutting up the segments of a sample, there were the option to insert silence instead of skipping the part. That would be great for drum beats especially.

[T-Rex]

... Also, I often find that it's hard to record a pad movement that will repeat rhythmically. That may just take practice. But it would be nice to set the pad movement to start on the downbeat, or offset, or whatever. Instead of just repeating immediately.

It would be so much better if we had 1/2/3 or 4-beat (and current "free" mode) Pad-Motion settings accessible from Pad LED button or some other key combination! (Hold+PadMotion?)

IMO it doesn't have to be synced with the beat (you could trigger it manually whenever you like)

I wonder why Korg didn't put another Shift key (Ctrl?).. that would allow for more key combinations.. and room for more features. Think about it Korg

[reSet]

dearest korg,

#1 You know that vocoder sound from the kp2 ( #88 ), the one that follows your pitch and trills along with you? That pitch tracking option could (please?) be an option on each vocoder, making them far more powerful. If you take the ability to track pitch like that and apply it to the intermal synth sounds (kapow!) you have the most valuable voice to synth sound ever.

thanks radiatesky! i sure was surprised when i noticed it was not included when i got the KP3 at the first place... loads of singers use this machine!

[T-Rex]

to sum up what I have in mind..

-bug fix
Pop noise: address the pop/crackle noise that occurs at the beginning of a looped sample after it's been Resampled!!

-wish #1?
Pad Motion Sync: free/1/2/3/4-beat Pad Motion with option to sync start-point with beat.
(you're right Zedius, that would be cool!)

-wish #2?
Trim Samples: if there was a way to cut the end of the sample without changing the number of beats. (just as we are able to cut from the beginning) --I guess this was requested--

-wish #3?
Metronome Pre-count: I'm using the KP3 as a guitar looper.. it's really difficult to press the sample button and play at the beginning of the beat.. so in addition to a metronome, a 1-beat (or 2) pre-count would be sooo cool!

-wish #4
Numbers in LED: add an option to choose either effect names or numbers on the LED (or on the touchpad)?! makes it easier to find an effect with scroll knob.



I wonder if Korg will look into any of this wishlist..
I sure hope so

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[T-Rex]

(if wishes 1-37 were sent to Korg, should we start a new post for more ideas/requests??)

[Chicle777]

Yeah!

More Kaossilator type of sample triggering and simple user editable/programmable synth
patches (AM and FM synthesis with simple in-depth editing under SHIFT funtion) for drums,
percussion and bass. The Kaossilator stuff should have been released by now since the
KP3 is the big brother in this family, surprised...

With this it would be a really powerful but simple standalone synth/sampler hybrid.

+1 for #1 request, longer sample times (memory card limitation) to build entire 4-track songs.

+1 for 8x8 sequencer grid trigger, Monome style (should work connected to a DAW aswell).

+1 for MIDI CC "SAMPLING" triggering.

+1 for truncate and start/end point adjustment options.

+1 Resampling to the same pad.

+1 for Reverse sample playback option (maybe exists already).

P.S. Get rid off those stupid 1-4 drum pattern pathes and the delay on the synth patches.
Totally useless. Keep drum patches 5-6.

Thanks.

[xtal]

Great thread!

I really like my KP3!

My wish would be about resampling and my pet name is "Reloop"
I'd like to be able resample a loop to another pad without worrying about timing the rec start.

Reloop Example:
I want to apply effects on a loop A and resample to B.
Loop A is continuously playing.

1 press SHIFT + SAMPLING
2 press A + B (meaning i want to reloop A to B)
3 recording automatically starts next time A starts and automatically stops at the end
4 any recorded effects applied to A during recording are now recorded to B

Thanks for keeping upgrading this product. It makes buying KORG hardware more fun and worthwhile compared to other manufacturers.

/xtal

[maako]

Sorry, it has been Chinese new year and I've been a busy bee.
I'll add the latest additions and send the list to the good people of Korg again.
The list remains till next update. Then we 'll green light everything that's added or fixed and call the remains Wish list 3.0

[didjeko]

I read this post attentively. Here are my remarks in 4 parts. My remarks are on the kaoss pad only, especially its use and its usability. No remarks about MIDI.

A. List of wishes that seem to be erroneous

I think that some wishes are soon implemented or contain some mistakes. I list it here with a comment. No matter if I my comments are erroneous. The only important goal is to build a list that is true and without errors...

8. An overall volume out level would be good...
I don't understand this demand. The overall output volume is controlled by the fader.

19. the looper should change the length...
Implemented in V2.0,I think. Mode loop 2. Excerpt of the manual : "tYP.2 ! When the looper hits a half-beat, the loop of the half-size phrase starts at the point that matches the current beat".

28. Effect is recorded with the sound when sampling
Ouaye ! want to suppress the wonderfullest characteristic of the Kaoss ? I totally disagree with number28 !
Fundamentally speaking,the ability to re-sample sound with effects on it is the most intelligent feature of the Kaoss... Perhaps I didn't understand the demand, but you can sample or resample at your choice.

B. Other bugs I met

B-1. Still a bug with wav files.
With V2.0 my Kaoss recognizes wav files, but it has a buggy behavior if I have sounds with the same name and different extensions.
I had the majority of mysounds as kps sounds and some others also in wav format :
40.kps, 41.kps,and 40.wav, 41.wav.
When I load the kps sounds,no problems.
When I load 40.kps and 40.wav, my Kaoss is lost : if I try to load another sound, the Kaoss only finds 40.wav and 41.wav,no matter how long I turn the knob.
Then, the four banks play the same sound and it's impossible to get the sounds on the card until I turn the power off then on.

B-2. Synchronization problems
I'm not sure it's a bug but if I launch two sounds, A and B, then I load a sound in bank C, at the end of the loading, loops A and B are no more synchronized. It seems that the desynchronization is increasing with tue duration of loading time. Minor problem, anyway.

C. Other demands

C-1 the apparition of clicks with trigger mode 3 & 4
Very complicated problem I think. We asked for these modes, here we are : the level falls to zero in a so short time that it clocks... The modification to this is implementing a fade out or a release time like on synths envelops. But what about the duration of the release time ? A fixed duration ? A short duration that vary with the tempo ? I'msure,if it's implemented,the next demand on the forum will be a way to parametrize thisrelease time... Nevertheless, it's necessary.

26 bis - The hability to apply the effect on selected banks, not on all at the same time
Very interesting feature to play :Bank A plays a loop,without effects, Bank B plays a loop with effects on Bank A. It would be a wonderfull feature for live playing.

C-3 Editing tempo without changing pitch
When you load a sond in the KP Editor, sometimes the detection of the tempo is bad (sound detected two times faster with the good pitch). With the editor, you can change the tempo and the number of steps without altering the pitch. It would be great to be able to do the same when editing a sound on the Kaoss.

C-4 The KP Editor rewritten in java I know, this demand will be rejected, but...

D. The most important demands to my opinion

first choice
11. Metronome
26 bis and C-1 from just above !
14. Mute and split loops

second choice
23. Improve the auto BPM. Just try to detect the beat of a Max Romeo's Dub : it's one step forward,two steps backwards
37. Software to edit the majority of effect parameters.


Nevertheless, the Kaoss is really a wonderfull machine. I dreamt of X-Y control since I discovered the Syter...

[SMK]

Again it seems I am the only one who sees value in this and I am constantly shocked that other including those who run this board are not clamoring for this but I truly believe that KP3 can be set up as a multi effect unit so which is why I still feel that an Multi-effect option should be on the top of that list some one is sending to Korg.

Wouldn't some of you DJs out there like to have that killer EQ effect with the grain filter with a delay all on at the same time?

[maako]

The list is in no special order. I just add them as they come..

[guila61]

I'm kind of surprised to be reading all of these requests. I hate to break the news, but most of yall seem to be requesting things without considering how the KP3 is built. Aren't you guys forgetting how a hardware is of uniform design, meaning the only changes I believe to be feasible in the real world are firmware updates that function as minor fixes. Much of the stuff wished for would fall as a new product wishlist. Half of you want more sampling time, for example, but you need physical change to the machine for that, because although our SD cards CAN hold larger one-time samples, the KP3 loads these samples onto a limited sized built-in memory. It's like fueling a car, where gas has to be stored in the gas tank first for it to then be accessible. Any modification to this rather simple routine means a complete makeover to a more advanced hardware.

Or am I missing something?

I did catch one thing I agree with and I think is possible:
"The possibility to switch the FX depth knob with the FX release slider would be sweet." joesapo

-guigui

[didjeko]

guila, I agree with you.
This is why I ordered my wishes and kept first choice / second choice and did not cared about things like multi-effects ; multi effects is for another machine. And the power of Kaoss is soon so fantastic and creative (and difficult to play & use !) with one effect...

I think that metronome is not reachable as an update, but talking about it is important because this need has to be escalated to Korg.

I think that 14 Mute ans split loops is clearly reachable as a software update, because it's not so far form the actual behaviour and in some limit cases, Kaoss does it, depending on the effects (e.g. trigger sound A, press hold, the effect is applied to A, then trigger sound B : you hear sound B without the effect and sound A with the effect. It arrived to me a few days ago but I don't remember the effect I used). 14 would really offer a new playability (playing sound B on the stable basis of A, minor way to polyphony).

[maako]

Santa never gave me everything I wished for. But some stuff came thru.

You got to keep the hope up..

I added wishes 38-44 and bugs 8 & 9.

I'm getting dizzy just looking at the list by now. So please, notify me if you find any errors or dupe wishes. And I'll send the list to the good people of Korg in a week or two..

[kutiman]

Wish: i just got the kp3 after using the kp2.. its an amazing instrument !! but i really miss the "auto rec" function from the kp2.. i.e. when u press simultaneously the sample button and and one of the sample banks the kp gos into the "auto rec" mood and starts sampeling as soon as it recives a signal...makes it much more simple to use as a loop station with external instruments .
tnx allot ..