Fantom G and OASYS

Mike Conway · Post by **Mike Conway** » Wed Jan 23, 2008 2:25 am

There's nothing dead in there, Neil.

massivevst · Post by **massivevst** » Wed Jan 23, 2008 10:24 am

Daz wrote:
massivevst wrote: You understand!
What I don't understand is how one of your post's above is from an Italian IP and then an hour or so later you post from a German IP. You do understand why that seems curious to us ?

So please verify your identity with us offline.

Daz.

Hi!

Well.......I'm sometime there.....and sometimes there (Germany).
You understand!

LIONSTRACS is everywhere!.......
That means.......the business is going very well, you ubderstand!

.......Don't worry anout the IP.

Cheers.

massivevst · Post by **massivevst** » Wed Jan 23, 2008 12:03 pm

thekeymaster wrote:I think you could make it to Italy from Munich in just over an hour........ but somehow I don't think thats what's happening is it.

anyway i'm not one person of the lionstracs company, just a custumer

thekeymaster · Post by **thekeymaster** » Wed Jan 23, 2008 12:46 pm

massivevst wrote:
anyway i'm not one person of the lionstracs company, just a custumer

Excellent,so if thats the case then please for the sake of keeping this thread on track what do you think of the Fantom G?

Does it look a decent workstation?Would you consider buying one?Do you have an opinion or are you biased to one manufacturer???

LEVEL4 · Post by **LEVEL4** » Wed Jan 23, 2008 6:07 pm

Don't mean to take this thread off-topic, and I'm certainly excited to continue to discuss more topics regarding the Fantom-G, but were there any significant product announcements by Korg at this winter's NAMM?

danatkorg · Post by **danatkorg** » Wed Jan 23, 2008 8:08 pm

LEVEL4 wrote:Don't mean to take this thread off-topic, and I'm certainly excited to continue to discuss more topics regarding the Fantom-G, but were there any significant product announcements by Korg at this winter's NAMM?

Our releases don't always line up with the trade shows, but there were two new fairly big things (one of them physically quite small): the Kaoscillator, and the Vox Guitars.

- Dan

LEVEL4 · Post by **LEVEL4** » Thu Jan 24, 2008 1:40 am

danatkorg wrote:Our releases don't always line up with the trade shows, but there were two new fairly big things (one of them physically quite small): the Kaoscillator, and the Vox Guitars.

Thanks, Dan! Didn't realize you were a Korg Product Manager (new avatar, maybe?). Always great to see Korg management online! If only other manufacturers would follow suit and maintain some customer presence online. Only from Korg and Access do I see actually company employees posting in the forums.

Now, back to your regularly-scheduled, on-topic posts . . .

tcornishmn · Post by **tcornishmn** » Thu Jan 24, 2008 9:37 pm

vEddY wrote:
tcornishmn wrote: Does the M3 have the CX3 in it? I didn't think it did. I am interested in the PC3x, but as far as I know it's still vaporware, like a lot of Kurzweil things. Also, generally I play 76-key boards due to the fact that organ glisses are painful on weighted keys and the 50lb Oasys 76 is heavy enough.
Nope, it doesn't, which is a bit sad Organs are good, really, but CX-3 is - hm, well - CX-3 It pretty much rocks. As far as PC3 is concerned, I'm gonna check out what the heck they're doing a bit later. Good idea, actually. They're so screwed up, I kind of lost interest last year, but I sure as hell hope that they're not "selling" us slideware, AMD style...

I do agree that O76 is heavy and maybe a bit pricey to be a second keyboard, but in general, I would go with it if you can afford it. I know that doing organ stuff on weighted hurts - hell, I've been doing it all the time - but that's the general tradeoff people have to be aware of when buying either one of those. For me, if it's 76 synth-action, there's no way I could play a piano, I'm a classical pianist so

You've prompted me to do a little research on the PC3. It looks like they will eventually release it - according to the Kurz developers the hardware is done and the software is almost done. Things always take longer than people think, but the current expected ship date is end of Feb/March.

For my purposes, which are mainly having a bunch of sounds layered for live performance, especially Hammond organ, it looks like the PC3 may do it.

They claim to have worked very hard on the Leslie simulator, which in my opinion, used to suck. They also claim that the sliders can change modes sort of like how they work on the Oasys - pressing a patch button causes the sliders to go to the mode that patch had programmed, so I could theoretically bounce between drawbars and the patch mixer.

The other thing I have fallen in love with on the Oasys is the ability to create combis where the IFX settings follow the patches. I can't say enough how important that is - the main reason I sold my old K2600 was that it was so hard to build combis with effects. If they have an Oasys-like "Copy from Program" function, I think I've found my backup in the PC3.

Thanks for your thoughts on the Kurz.

vEddY · Post by **vEddY** » Fri Jan 25, 2008 12:12 am

tcornishmn wrote: You've prompted me to do a little research on the PC3. It looks like they will eventually release it - according to the Kurz developers the hardware is done and the software is almost done. Things always take longer than people think, but the current expected ship date is end of Feb/March.

The other thing I have fallen in love with on the Oasys is the ability to create combis where the IFX settings follow the patches. I can't say enough how important that is - the main reason I sold my old K2600 was that it was so hard to build combis with effects. If they have an Oasys-like "Copy from Program" function, I think I've found my backup in the PC3.

Thanks for your thoughts on the Kurz.

Anytime. I think that, as a person, I do prefer KORG stuff - I just find the way that interface works on KORG is much more to my liking as a musician. But that doesn't stop me from having at least some sort of professional opinion about other companies' products I would have many more thoughts if I didn't have to fight a bit to get them to let me touch the PC3. That wasn't really enjoyable, although I always respected Kurz stuff and I have no problems giving kudos to them for the work they've done on many of their products in the past. Except for the K2661 thingy, but we already discussed that in detail on this forum

In my view, if you own an OASYS - as a second keyboard, PC3(X) could be an awesome choice if you're more of an acoustic type, while Fantom G could add something nice in terms of non-acoustic sounds. As a first keyboard, I wouldn't say the same. I think that in general, there's gonna be a fierce battle between the Fantom G and M3 on the market, since they're in the same price segment. I don't think that PC3 will have that much of an impact on M3 or G sales, because they really need some time to dig themselves out of this blackhole they've dug for themselves....

Drunky · Post by **Drunky** » Fri Jan 25, 2008 7:40 am

In my view, if you own an OASYS - as a second keyboard, PC3(X) could be an awesome choice

What you mean for PC3(X) ?

tcornishmn · Post by **tcornishmn** » Fri Jan 25, 2008 2:02 pm

It's means either the PC3 or the PC3X. The PC3 is the 76-key version, the PC3X is the 88 key version, but the electronics are the same. That's why they are referred to together as PC3(X)

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