Which Drum Machines can do these common tasks?

robosardine · Post by **robosardine** » Mon Jan 21, 2008 8:55 pm

Hi there. I've now got Electribes EMX, ESX and EA 1 Mk 11 and I've never been happier.... Well not quite, I'm looking for a drum machine to finish off my setup. One where you can 1) do fills whilst playing AND 2) mute tracks whilst playing. Any ideas? Many thanks

robosardine · Post by **robosardine** » Tue Jan 22, 2008 8:43 pm

Oh I meant also to say 3) mutes are carried through to your next pattern, Does such a machine exist?

anselmi · Post by **anselmi** » Tue Jan 22, 2008 9:05 pm

robosardine wrote:Oh I meant also to say 3) mutes are carried through to your next pattern, Does such a machine exist?

what do you mean with "do fills whilst playing" and "mute tracks whilst playing" ???

anyway the only drum machine i know that hold track mutes when you change a pattern is the elektron machinedrum

if you get it you don´t only have those features but maybe the best drum machine ever made...at last for electronic relatd styles...

this machine is SERIOUS stuff, and of course it has a SERIOUS price tag

robosardine · Post by **robosardine** » Tue Jan 22, 2008 11:57 pm

I mean fills-a button you press that makes a pre-programmed drum phrase play temporarily over your pattern. mute- the ability to turn off an instrument eg the bass drum or snare whilst the pattern is playing. Most drum machines have at least one of these features, All three would be great. Any ideas? Cheers

aizo · Post by **aizo** » Wed Jan 23, 2008 12:57 am

robosardine wrote:I mean fills-a button you press that makes a pre-programmed drum phrase play temporarily over your pattern. mute- the ability to turn off an instrument eg the bass drum or snare whilst the pattern is playing. Most drum machines have at least one of these features, All three would be great. Any ideas? Cheers

well you can have any drum machine ply a fill. just write a fill pattern and switch to it. i mean i get what your are asking for. i used to have an cheapy keyboard that did that. it had fill a and b of each preset pattern. but most GOOD drum machines dont use that. mainly becuase they are aimed at people who want the freedom to fully program their own s**t and dont want all the space taken up on the machine by presets. alo most machines have an instrument mute. electribes, roland's mc(mc-505, mc-808, mc-909) series. yamaha's rmx. i think that is almost standard.

robosardine · Post by **robosardine** » Wed Jan 23, 2008 11:15 am

Thanks. But I want to play a fill without having to change patterns. Most dedicated drum machines don't seem to have a part mute though the grooveboxes you mention do. Is there a drum machine that does fills and mutes that will carry through to the next selected pattern that anyone knows of?

Tedfromwork · Post by **Tedfromwork** » Wed Jan 23, 2008 1:17 pm

It sounds like you need Ableton Live so you can trigger drum loops and fills and turn them off whenever you'd like with a keyboard or something.

anselmi · Post by **anselmi** » Wed Jan 23, 2008 2:50 pm

robosardine wrote:Thanks. But I want to play a fill without having to change patterns. Most dedicated drum machines don't seem to have a part mute though the grooveboxes you mention do. Is there a drum machine that does fills and mutes that will carry through to the next selected pattern that anyone knows of?

waht i do on the machinedrum to get instant fills is to reserve 2 channels that are muted until i want to fire the fill

the machinedrum got 16 cahnnels, so using 2 for that task isn´t a problem

i also got a crash channel that fire a crash in the first step of each channel...also muted, so i can fill & crash at any time, and just in sync

reddone · Post by **reddone** » Wed Jan 23, 2008 5:21 pm

Couldnt u just make and re-sample a fill into one slot on ur esx n trigger it within the mix when needed ?

The way u describe it is confusing 4 me , but in my mind to mute the track n play a fill at the same time couldnt u just solo the fill 4 the time period n bring the rest in when needed again ?

Maybe im off the path ...

(edit ) ... in song mode u could apply what i mentioned and have "part mute hold" turned on , i think this should solve things 4 u . if not , keep huntin' .

robosardine · Post by **robosardine** » Wed Jan 23, 2008 11:17 pm

Thanks for your replies so far. I had thought of using another track for fills. I don't necessarily want to mute and fill at the same time. All I am wanting to do is have freedom to improvise on a drum machine as other boxes are playing. I am hoping to usr the ESX for mainly noises, voices, guitar etc- The EMX and EA1 to do their thing as we know and love and a drum machine that is playing alongside. So I could have a huge variety of options for drums to go wit a single EMX pattern eg. So if I feel like changing the drum pattern (with the same EMX pattern playing after twiddling it's knobs to bits) and I have the bass drum muted and I want it to remain so (or not) then I could do so. Or in a similar situation I may think about dropping in a fill. This is my problem- as mentioned earlier there are seveal grooveboxes that can do this. I assumed that dedicated drum machines could do this (and possibly more!) I actually thought that this was the least we could ask of them these days- perhaps this in not so. Please tell me it's not true. If it is then I would settke for one where the mutes remain (this would be my top priooty) as you change patterns. Yours hopefully. Robosardine.

inducejack · Post by **inducejack** » Sat Feb 02, 2008 11:13 am

three numbers.....909

inducejack · Post by **inducejack** » Sat Feb 02, 2008 11:14 am

if you dont have a grand to spend for the 9 I think the mfb 502 has fills and its a TR Style sequencer...only like 250 bucks too...