Is Reason 4 More Powerful Than The Oasys?

[MartinHines]

Look, its not like I sell beats every day.

Thank you for confirming to us your earlier statement was a lie.

"I made $15,000 ONCE making beats" is completely different than "I make $10-$15k for EVERY 30 minutes".

Case closed.


P.S. -- You still haven't answered the question as to WHY you post essentially the same comments over and over again in a primarily hardware forum, when you have stated you "sold most of my hardware stuff"? That would be like me posting in a Mac Forum that "Windows XP Rules!!!".

[tyronediggs]

Look, its not like I sell beats every day.

Thank you for confirming to us your earlier statement was a lie.

"I made $15,000 ONCE making beats" is completely different than "I make $10-$15k for EVERY 30 minutes".

Case closed.

I was simply implying this: it takes me about 30 minutes to make a beat, and the average selling price of my beats are 15k.

[MartinHines]

I was simply implying this: it takes me about 30 minutes to make a beat, and the average selling price of my beats are 15k.

Again, if the AVERAGE SELLING PRICE of "your beats" is $15,000 and it only takes you "about 30 minutes" to make these beats, what the heck are you doing posting on this forum?

In responding to my posts during the last 30 minutes you have thrown away $15,000!!!! You could have purchased a brand new fully loaded Mac Pro with a gazillion GB of RAM for that money!!!

[tyronediggs]

You still haven't answered the question as to WHY you post essentially the same comments over and over again in a primarily hardware forum, when you have stated you "sold most of my hardware stuff"? That would be like me posting in a Mac Forum that "Windows XP Rules!!!"

Not really, I just think that over the last year or so, software has really advanced to a point where it is probably going to replace your traditional keyboards.

I used to work with the Triton and MPC 3000 back in 2005, and everyone in the industry was using the same setup. (basically Triton/Motif/Fantom + MPC)

In the last 12-24 months there seems to be a 180 shift in the industry, and all the producers I know use Komplete, Logic and Reason, plus a computer.

I am just telling everyone about my observations of the music industry, thats all.

[EJ2]

I smell a troll! Better we just leave him to his own banter.

[tyronediggs]

Martin,

If you don't like what I've been saying, just ignore the comments - it's that simple.

Don't waste your time digging through other people's old comments, trying to find little pieces of evidence that you can criticize, trying to start an argument.

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Back to the original subject:

I was wondering, if the Oasys has a 40GB hard drive, why doesn't it have a bigger rom - like a 30 GB rom?

Another thing that is really puzzling me is why haven't keyboards progressed in the same way as computer software, in that the memory seems to move up in much more smaller steps than software workstations.

I think the Triton is 64mb, then the M3 is about triple the size. But I've seen software workstations jump from 64mb to 64GB, thats a 1000 fold increase.

[MartinHines]

Martin,

If you don't like what I've been saying, just ignore the comments - it's that simple.

Don't waste your time digging through other people's old comments, trying to find little pieces of evidence that you can criticize, trying to start an argument.

You have still not answered the basic question as to why you keep posting the same thoughts over and over again. If you were someone who actually liked Korg products and posted about OTHER subjects in addition to your "only use software" position, I wouldn't question your posts.

If I thought you had good intentions, I WOULD ignore your comments. However, when every post you have made presents the same message over and over and over again, just using different words, I must ask 'why'?

Please answer WHY you are posting?

[MartinHines]

I was wondering, if the Oasys has a 40GB hard drive, why doesn't it have a bigger rom - like a 30 GB rom?

The answer to that question is based on how computer memory and large sample-library software based instruments actually work.

The OASYS loads ALL of its samples into memory on power up, and that memory is maxed out at 2GB. By loading all of the samples into RAM, this provides INSTANT access to any sound, which make the OASYS similar to other keyboard workstations (which also load all their samples into RAM on power up).

With large-sample based software samplers and instruments, the majority of which are designed to operate under a 2 GB RAM limit (with the exception of brand new computers that may allow 4 GB of RAM or higher), one can only load a small portion of the 'sounds' into memory at one time. Even with computers with huge amounts of memory (e.g. 16 GB) it takes alot of time (minutes) to load 16GB worth of samples. This restricts the user from switching sounds quickly, which is why the vast majority of large sample library software-based instruments are used in the studio and not in live performance situations.

I own Gigastudio 3 and Kontakt 3 and I like these products, but I understand the pluses and minuses of all products, including keyboard workstations like the OASYS.

[rbox]

I know a lot of real big time producers that swear by Reason. For example I a lot of tracks on the last multi-platinum 50 Cent album "Curtis" was done on Reason.

Does anyone think that Reason could actually be more powerful than the Oasys if used properly?

Welcome back again! I notice that most of your posts seem to be along these same lines. See the previous replies for answers.

- Dan

Hi,

No offense or anything, but I notice you always become very touchy whenever any form of software other than the Oasys is mentioned, almost like you are trying to brush something under the rug.

You do realize that once computers reach the 64-bit standard (with the potential for unlimited RAM) and 8-core chips - the big soft synths are going to rule the industry.

PC Softsynths are nice they have some cool features ,but the Soundquality is not so good because VST and Standalone Softsynths are not optimized on Hardware because the programs must run on different PC/MAC configurations(AMD,Intel,Nvidia,ATI,XP,Vista,different MHZ Speed,single core,dual core,quad core,different ram types and so on),you have troubles with latency,glitches.And that is the different to the Oasys,because the Korg plugins are optmized on the Oasys hardware with better results in soundquality ,you have more freeroom for effects and real keyboardfeeling.The concept of Reason is different to the Oasys,
Oasys has more possibilities for lifeplaying,like with Karma.The Oasys has
a better ratio aspect between soundquality,features and gameplay.My only beef is the mainsequencer,the handling is in some points inconvenient(it needs a cuelist and a grideditor for drum/melody grooves).

I hope that Korg released in the future the Synkit Software for Home-PC's
that we can create with the Oasys our own Synthengines like Reaktor or Kyma.

[Charlie]

Oh no - what shall I do - I own already an Oasys - and now something more powerfull might be out there - PANIC!!!!
But ... luckily I can cool down ... having a Boesendorfer as well ...

(Sorry for the completely off topic and useless remarks here - just couldn't hold back my fingers to type this )

[andries]

I know a lot of real big time producers that swear by Reason. For example I a lot of tracks on the last multi-platinum 50 Cent album "Curtis" was done on Reason.

Does anyone think that Reason could actually be more powerful than the Oasys if used properly?

are you realy that stupid?