Jazlover-Feb-(08)- Senora en Blanca

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Normalize on the D1600 is as you describe. The final effect had a Limiter in it. I appreciate any and all comments. I should be able to make that better because it is changable.
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I use normalise too, but only on the final stereo mix. This is my usual D1600 route:

  • Record all the audio tracks separately, either with effects from the instrument, or dry.
    I would rather add processing at the mixing stage, as it can be taken away if needed.
    Midi sync keyboard parts (the D1600 is the master) over as audio.
    Try to set the levels, add any onboard effects, panning, eq etc.
    When they seem OK, then I use the 'scenes' function to lock them down, and also cut parts out etc (ended up with about 30 for Feb).
    Set the final master effect, LA remaster seems to work well, although I didn’t use it this time.
    Bounce all 16 (usually) to 2 virtual tracks.
    Copy this final stereo mix into a new song, and normalise here.
The original mix is still safe, and alterations can be easily made.


What a great sounding track!
It's been looping while I'm typing this, and it's taken my somewhere else. I like the instrument changes, the chords and the playing, there’s quite a mixture going on, but it still holds together, it seems to flow from one section to the next. It’s also quite melancholy in places, which I also like. Love the lead starting at 4:00, a full and exciting end.

An excellent start to osam :)
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Hello Friend,

Well, you got my attention on this one!! I find it very experimental and full of ideas, and on a personal basis I simply cannot determine changes I would make, it is for me strewn with wonderful sound, and ideas. so in fact:

It is simply like an improvization, a dream episode if you please..., tho' better in many ways than what I do, and I believe it is what it is..I see NO need for change other than the abrupt transitions, as it represents a creation.

I believe musicians too often play or record something, that is meaningful for them, and then believe they must change it to meet some specific vision in general of what others believe it must be. Thats fine and REQUIRED for music that must SELL...and it IS in fact, a result for both better and worse, of the EASE we now have with electronics.

That is the only reason to improve it after the fact!!! In the changes, after all, it becomes both more...and LESS than it was, and the mystery dissipates....such is the true nature of art!

(I will...get some response on this little tirade, I suspect.....)

My Regards and keep it up!!!!!! John :roll:
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Great stuff, Daz,

And of much complexity upon thought....Will require some additional time to get a feel for it all..

Thanks for listing this where we all can see it...

Regards, John (ellll) :roll:
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Post by sewa »

Great piece, the guitar part is just marvellous. I can't see why you should have a problem with mixing. To me, the recording just sounds perfect.

It good to see some true musical skills; it motivates...

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Post by Vesa »

Who is this white lady in so many parts ? I love the brite piano part, was so expressive, played well and sounded great. The song is like compressed from a great movie with dramatic scenes decades apart.

Nice work Jazlover :)
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Dude, you don't need to ask cinegrad anything. You're good !!! I've never liked jazz because much of it seems to be just about fingers but your music has bucket loads of emotion -and- the fingers.

Wow. This is stunning work! How exciting. :)

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Susan you are always giving and encouraging. I appreciate you for who you are as a person and a musician. My attempts this year need more professionalism and more direction put into them. I need to grow in songwriting.

Baby steps...baby steps

Cnegrad is the real deal....I am just a poser. I wonder how he is doing. You remind me that I need to write him.

Take care!
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