sound off

scottiodo · Post by **scottiodo** » Tue Mar 04, 2008 7:36 am

does anyone know how to stop the sound from shutting off when switching combis? i know it stays on when switching programs.

Fatalmasterpiece · Post by **Fatalmasterpiece** » Tue Mar 04, 2008 8:51 am

To the best of my knowledge there is no way to do this.

It is an unfortunate draw back to the TR and it not being a top of the line model...

This can be averted in recordings by doing different takes.

I love my TR but this is one of the few things I would love to change about it... maybe in the future a higher Korg model would be in order.

Voltan · Post by **Voltan** » Tue Mar 04, 2008 12:29 pm

Fatalmasterpiece wrote:It is an unfortunate draw back to the TR and it not being a top of the line model...

not being top of the line has nothing to do with this - none of korg workstations can do this

Fatalmasterpiece · Post by **Fatalmasterpiece** » Tue Mar 18, 2008 7:32 pm

Really? Not even the extreme? That is somewhat odd... hmm... Seems like if one was looking into buying a high end model, this would be one thing to look for.

smstome · Post by **smstome** » Wed Mar 19, 2008 11:28 am

Yep, even the extreme won't

Mad Warrior · Post by **Mad Warrior** » Wed Mar 19, 2008 11:40 am

I have the same problem too =(
I play fast metal music with lot of changes of sounds during the song.
I own Roland Fantom XR and it hasn't such problem, because it has "patch remain" feature.
Actually if I knew that there is such problem on Korgs before I bought TR I wouldn't buy it...

Voltan · Post by **Voltan** » Wed Mar 19, 2008 11:41 am

Fatalmasterpiece wrote:Really? Not even the extreme? That is somewhat odd... hmm... Seems like if one was looking into buying a high end model, this would be one thing to look for.

actually - not even oasys

Mad Warrior - I play fast metal stuff too and I never found that to be a problem in a live performance.
First of all - create your own combis with sounds split across the keyboard - design them for specific songs so you don't have to change them that much
secondly - when playing with a loud band - the audience will hardly ever notice your sound being cut off if you do the changes right.

smstome · Post by **smstome** » Wed Mar 19, 2008 11:43 am

This is due to effects get reset while combi changes.
Only option is to put the patches in seq and play them by changing tracks.

Fatalmasterpiece · Post by **Fatalmasterpiece** » Wed Mar 19, 2008 7:13 pm

I agree with Voltan that it isn't a huge problem... it just changes my play style a bit. For example, I have this part where I go from booming choirs then the next measure is quiet piano by myself... to avoid the cut off, I simply release the key a little early on the choirs to get more trail off before I switch. If you play cleanly without a constant sustain, it shouldn't be that much of a problem.

Maybe if enough customers show interest in this, Korg will consider this when creating their next line of keyboards.

Mad Warrior · Post by **Mad Warrior** » Thu Mar 20, 2008 11:28 am

It isn't problem if you play mostly background chords - pads, strings, choirs etc. But I'm suggested to play fast melodies almost all the time and with different sounds. I have just 61 keys. Almost all my combis are splits of 2 sounds. If I had 76 keys I probably could make splits of 3 sounds. Most times switching isn't noticable when I play with the band. But there are several moments (about one or two in every song) where it is very noticable. For example: I play fast melody with 1/16 notes in 132 bpm with bells sounds, then I should play same melody with lead sound and then I need to play some chords with piano sound. So I've splited bells and lead - it is the first combi and the second combi is piano. But due to that switching problem I can't play last few notes of the lead melody or first chord of the piano. Both ways sound not very good... =(

smstome · Post by **smstome** » Thu Mar 20, 2008 2:13 pm

As i mentioned you can use seq mode.

Say if you have sets of 2 layers of sounds then

Track-1 & 8 should be assined any 2 layers and set them to MIDI Ch 1
Track-2 & 9 should be asigned any 2 layers and set them to MIDI Ch 2
.........3 & 10
.........4
.......
.........
...........
Track-8 & 16 should be asigned any 2 layers and set them to MIDI Ch 8

Now if you play track 1 you will hear tr1 & tr8 coz they share same midi channel.

In this way you can play 8 different sets (layered) sounds by just changing the track no. 1-8.

In this case you won't experiance sounds off.

Hope this helped

Mad Warrior · Post by **Mad Warrior** » Sat Mar 22, 2008 1:29 am

Sorry, I've written wrong thing about Fantom X. It has the same problem in Performance mode. Patch remain feature only works in Patch mode. And TR has same feature by default in Prog mode...
Don't want to make advertisment, but as we talk about keyboards without silence between combinations change.. I've read J. Rudes's review of new Fantom G. It is in russian, so I don't give link here. And he said that it is the first keyboard that has no silence while Performances (Combinations) are changing.

Thank you for good idea, smstome!
But I'm not able to switch between sounds with the foot switch with this setup.

Ajith · Post by **Ajith** » Sat Mar 22, 2008 11:24 am

Fatalmasterpiece wrote:Really? Not even the extreme? That is somewhat odd... hmm... Seems like if one was looking into buying a high end model, this would be one thing to look for.

Not only with Korg, with other keyboards also

Mad Warrior · Post by **Mad Warrior** » Sun Mar 23, 2008 6:39 pm

Only Fantom G...

Voltan · Post by **Voltan** » Sun Mar 23, 2008 11:58 pm

and some Kurzweils