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Post by Voltan »

this can be done but you will need to use 3 different programs, not just 3 timbres in a combi with the same program transposed
so if it's the same program you want in 3 different keys, first you need to save it in 3 different locations in prog mode

now, I don't have my Triton at home (I keep it in the rehearsal room) so the following may not be very exact but It should give you an idea what you need to do

first of all - whether you transpose the programs within the actual programs (ones you saved in different locations) or on the pitch page in the combi - doesn't really make a difference.
I'd use the combi mode, it'd make it possible to use different intervals in different combis (like 3rds and 5ths in one and octaves in another)

now what you need to do is go to each of the saved copies of your program and to their "amp" pages

- set the level/volume to 0
- set the level's AMS source to SW1 in one of them and SW2 in the other one
- set the AMS amount to +[whatever level you need] (this should probably be the value of level/volume before you changed it to 0)
- save the program

next step would be putting together a combi with these 3 timbres (the original and the 2 edited copies)
I'll assume you guys know how to do this

make sure you transpose the copies to desired intervals and set SW1 and SW2 to SW1-CC#80 and SW2-CC#81

what you'll get is a combi where 3 timbres are played simultaneously but 2 of them are actually silent
SW1 will boost the volume of one of the timbres, SW2 will boost the volume of another one

note that the silent timbres WILL use up polyphony even when they are muted - this should not be a problem if it's just a lead sound though

hope this helps
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Post by pauturvalles »

Thank you for your answer!

But I've got a problem. I set the level in both "amp" pages to 0, but the sound doesn't sounds. First question: ¿Which AMS do I have to change to SW1? Because I've tried with all, and if I press SW1 it's still without sound... Second question: If I do it correctly (in program mode), the program won't sound, but if I press SW1 (in program mode always) it will sound, isn't that?

I hope I've been a bit understandable...
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Post by Voltan »

as I said, I don't have the Triton with me
it's the AMS right next to level
if you want to check if it works in program mode, you need to make sure that SW1 is set to SW1 mod CC#80 (not "octave up" or anything like that)
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Post by pauturvalles »

Voltan wrote:as I said, I don't have the Triton with me
it's the AMS right next to level
if you want to check if it works in program mode, you need to make sure that SW1 is set to SW1 mod CC#80 (not "octave up" or anything like that)
When I go to the Amp page, there's Level: 100 and there is nothing at right or left. Down is the "pan" level, and an AMS for "pan" :?
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Post by Voltan »

ok, let me check the manual ;)
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Voltan wrote:ok, let me check the manual ;)
Thanks for your patience! ^^
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Post by Voltan »

found it
it's on the "Mod." tab, to the right, the first AMS
that one should do the trick, I think
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Voltan wrote:found it
it's on the "Mod." tab, to the right, the first AMS
that one should do the trick, I think
That's the Amp AMS, isn't it? I'm sorry, but I've tried it and it's still not working :(
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Post by Voltan »

is the switch set right?
Page 2.2 Ctrls SW1/2 Assign
SW1 should be SW1 mod. (CC#80)
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Voltan wrote:is the switch set right?
Page 2.2 Ctrls SW1/2 Assign
SW1 should be SW1 mod. (CC#80)
Yes, it is. I've tried it twice, but when I press the switch the sound is still off... :(
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Post by Voltan »

Ok, I've just tried to do the same thing with my M3 and you're right
The amp AMS only changes the amount of velocity AMS so it won't work this way

however, I've found a solution to this problem on the M3, now I'll try to map it to Triton's controls :)
edit:

well... after going through the manual... I can't do it without some experimentation with the board :(
M3 has a "output level" control in the filters section which works just fine but there's no such thing in the Triton so I'd need to find another way
I'm sure it's possible ;)

Maybe someone else can help you before I get to try it with my Triton (which probably won't happen until next week)
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Voltan wrote:Ok, I've just tried to do the same thing with my M3 and you're right
The amp AMS only changes the amount of velocity AMS so it won't work this way

however, I've found a solution to this problem on the M3, now I'll try to map it to Triton's controls :)
edit:

well... after going through the manual... I can't do it without some experimentation with the board :(
M3 has a "output level" control in the filters section which works just fine but there's no such thing in the Triton so I'd need to find another way
I'm sure it's possible ;)

Maybe someone else can help you before I get to try it with my Triton (which probably won't happen until next week)
OK. Thank you very much! I'll wait to your answer when you can experiment with your Triton
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Post by gazmondo »

Hi - this baffled me for a bit but you can do what you want with the realtime controls: Set the first realtime control so that it controls volume by going into Menu / Ctrl and setting knob1-B to Volume (CC#07)

You then have to go into the third midi menu which specifies which voices are affected by the first and second controls (Menu / Midi3 ) tick the programs you want the volume change to affect and untick the ones you don't.

You can then repeat the whole thing on the remaining realtime controls - this way you can control individual volumes on up to four programs by turning the realtime controls by ticking different voices for each dial.

I hope this helps.
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Post by pauturvalles »

gazmondo wrote:Hi - this baffled me for a bit but you can do what you want with the realtime controls: Set the first realtime control so that it controls volume by going into Menu / Ctrl and setting knob1-B to Volume (CC#07)

You then have to go into the third midi menu which specifies which voices are affected by the first and second controls (Menu / Midi3 ) tick the programs you want the volume change to affect and untick the ones you don't.

You can then repeat the whole thing on the remaining realtime controls - this way you can control individual volumes on up to four programs by turning the realtime controls by ticking different voices for each dial.

I hope this helps.
It works perfect!! Thank you very much!! Only one little question... I saved the combi, and if I turn on the TR again, with the knobs in the middle of their position, the harmonics are sounding, but I've not turned the knobs... is there any way to make that the harmonics only sound when I turn the knobs?
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Post by higskies »

When you save a combi, the knob settings are retained as well, so all you need to do is save the combi while the knobs are turned all the way down, and then you're golden.

I've been following this thread and may need to try this out for my live setup. I love this forum.
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