Connecting ESX and EMX Via midi.

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Connecting ESX and EMX Via midi.

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Hey.

recently bought an ESX a few weeks ago,second hand,smart media card,reader,the whole lot, great price and im really enjoying it!


But what i want to look for is more information as regards MIDI sync between the EMX and ESX.

Im using the ESX as the slave at the moment,but what i noticed is that when i change to a different pattern on the EMX,the exs does so too.Im not really surprised,because the esx is the "slave" is there any way of disabling this feature? its no big deal really.....



Secondly,does anyone have any tips as regards syncing the EMX and ESX?

as i find im just putting the MIDI cable in and im just getting crazy sounds,some good,some just dodgy.

I also found that im that im making patterns now,while both devices are synched.so say pattern D.52(on emx) for example will work in harmony with D.52 on esx,which is pretty cool i guess.they were both made at the same time.

If there have been posts about syncing the EMX and ESX via MIDI please let me know,ive spent the last 4 days searching and i just cant find anything on this topic.

any help or tips would greatly be appreciated.

:o
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Post by robosardine »

Set one box clock to INT set the other to EXT. Then set all drum parts on say EMX to midi channel 1. Give the rest a midi channel each- eg part 1 gets set to midi channel 2, part 2 gets set to midi channel3 etc. Then do the same to the ESX- set each part a different midi channel- you have 16 to play with so don't worry. I think for some reason the esx likes to have it's one shot parts set to channel 10- so do this and give the other parts their own channel too.... different ones than the EMX. You should now be able to have what you want. One box tells the other when to start/stop and keeps the tempo. You can tee up and play different patterns on both boxes at the same time without interfering with one another..... but sounding great and in perfect time together. Don't forget to get some sleep. Cheers Robosardine
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Post by Willie K »

By default...drums are set up to midi channel 10 (all midi devices), that's why if you change the channel in one of the drum parts in the tribes, all 9 parts change to the same channel. As Robosardine stated, set both electribes parts to different midi channels this way they don't interfere with each other, and...don't forget to set one as master (clock to INT) and the other as slave (clock to EXT), also, check "midi filters", this way you can choose what midi messages to transmit (CC,program change,clock,etc)
1.Press midi key.
2.Hold down the shift key and press step key 12 (midi utility)...it will blink.The display will show : MIDI util.
3.Make sure the value display indicates "Filter" and press key 12.
4.The parameter display will read "PCEN".
The characters PCEN correspond to four types of message whose status is indicated by an "0" or "X".
If you don't want that message to be transmited...set it to "X" ...or "0" if you want it.
P=Program change
C=Control change
E=Exlusive data transmission
N=Note message transmission

5.When you've finished making settings, press the 12 key to return to MIDI MODE, it will go dark and the midi mode key will light.
Hope this help. :wink:
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Thanks for your help guys,ill be putting this knew found knowledge to use tomorrow morning!
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Post by soundklinik33 »

Another question,
how do you run the midi cables, if you have a keyboard controller,ESX, EMX-master, how do you connect it up, all the midi cables?
TIA :)
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Re: Connecting ESX and EMX Via midi.

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808state wrote:If there have been posts about syncing the EMX and ESX via MIDI please let me know,ive spent the last 4 days searching and i just cant find anything on this topic.
Page 93 in the ESX manual, section "Synchronizing playback with an external MIDI device"
Page 94 in the ESX manual, section "Playing back in sync with other Electribe Models"
Page 90, MIDI Utility, Making MIDI filter settings (to stop pattern changes spreading between machines)

Regarding searching the forums, it took under 30 seconds to find an answer to your question here: http://www.korgforums.com/forum/phpBB2/ ... light=sync

Be honest, did you really spend 4 days searching and not find that, or is it maybe that you are too lazy to use the search feature and are just pretending that you did
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Re: Connecting ESX and EMX Via midi.

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MagpieIndustries wrote:
808state wrote:If there have been posts about syncing the EMX and ESX via MIDI please let me know,ive spent the last 4 days searching and i just cant find anything on this topic.
Page 93 in the ESX manual, section "Synchronizing playback with an external MIDI device"
Page 94 in the ESX manual, section "Playing back in sync with other Electribe Models"
Page 90, MIDI Utility, Making MIDI filter settings (to stop pattern changes spreading between machines)

Regarding searching the forums, it took under 30 seconds to find an answer to your question here: http://www.korgforums.com/forum/phpBB2/ ... light=sync

Be honest, did you really spend 4 days searching and not find that, or is it maybe that you are too lazy to use the search feature and are just pretending that you did
Thank you!


Another question,
how do you run the midi cables, if you have a keyboard controller,ESX, EMX-master, how do you connect it up, all the midi cables?
TIA
You would have an extra piece of gear. Best way to go about it would be to get a merge box by midi solutions.... there's what's called a quadra merge which takes four inputs and merges them into one output.
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Remote 25- ESX-EMX + Audio Kontrol 1(midi in/out)

Post by soundklinik33 »

Thanx Ruso for your answer,
I am getting the EMX wednesday :D :D and I wanted to be sure that all that will sync together...
Do you mean I would need an extra piece of gear? :cry:

I was hoping there would be a $impler $olution by going (returning) to remote 25- it has 2 outs, 1 in, 1 thru.
I know for midi sync, (which is necessary) I got to go out of EMX out, to ESX in and that steals the available midi in on esx .

IF I go from remote midi out > emx midi in, EMX midi out> ESX midi in and then assign midi channels different on 5 synths midi ch 1-5 (emx), all drums-(esx/emx) midi ch10 and 2-keyboard parts(esx) midi ch. 6,7 would the R-25 see ESX/EMX as 1 machine?? all I want is to play notes with it...
Would that work??
(Also I am not using the midi in/out of the sound card AK1-- R-25 is USB

Cheers and thank you all for your time/help :)
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Post by Ruso »

keyboard to emx midi in.... emx midi out to esx midi in.... then all you gotta do is filter out midi data on the esx and set it to slave and you're good to go. No need to change midi channels.
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