EMX: how to have pure midi sequence in part without sound?

ruczaj · Post by **ruczaj** » Thu Sep 11, 2008 8:40 pm

Hello,
I use EMX hooked via midi to Access Virus. EMX serves as drum machine, Virus as synth. I have problem - it is possible to have just notes on EMX's part, but without any sound ascribed to it?
I can't just plug off EMX output, because I need its drum sounds. But I need EMX also as a sequencer.
Of course, I could workout it by ascribing synths parts to "Output bus 3/4" and just leave it unplugged. But is there any EMX option which could cut off internal sounds without cutting midi sending?

Thanks for help
Ruczaj

shabudua · Post by **shabudua** » Fri Sep 12, 2008 12:07 am

Just turn the volume of that synth part all the way down.

xmlguy · Post by **xmlguy** » Fri Sep 12, 2008 2:13 am

ruczaj wrote:Hello,
I use EMX hooked via midi to Access Virus. EMX serves as drum machine, Virus as synth. I have problem - it is possible to have just notes on EMX's part, but without any sound ascribed to it?
I can't just plug off EMX output, because I need its drum sounds. But I need EMX also as a sequencer.
Of course, I could workout it by ascribing synths parts to "Output bus 3/4" and just leave it unplugged. But is there any EMX option which could cut off internal sounds without cutting midi sending?

Sending the synth parts to Output bus 3/4 doesn't affect the midi sending, it only changes where the audio is sent. Synth part 1 is still sent by default to MIDI channel 1, part 2 to MIDI channel 2 and so on.

If you turn the volume down on a synth part while another keyboard is listening to that midi channel, you'll accidentally turn down the volume on it too. Changing the output bus has no effect on the midi events - so that won't happen if you turn off the part that way. Also, you can sometimes use the EMX-1 knobs to control the parameters of the external keyboard - if the CC# are coordinated between them.

m4m · Post by **m4m** » Fri Sep 12, 2008 2:41 am

do NOT turn the volume down as it sends cc 7

and will turn the volume down on the virus, assign to out 3-4(if unused)

Tyler_raine · Post by **Tyler_raine** » Fri Sep 12, 2008 9:15 am

All you have to do is turn the sample off for that particular part, it'll still have all the noted date being sent to your external midi synth but as your EMX has nothing selected nothing will sound from it. Hope that helps.

supermel74 · Post by **supermel74** » Fri Sep 12, 2008 9:38 am

Tyler_raine wrote:All you have to do is turn the sample off for that particular part, it'll still have all the noted date being sent to your external midi synth but as your EMX has nothing selected nothing will sound from it. Hope that helps.

but when you stop the EMX the Virus won't get the "note off" message and will sustain those notes infinately. I'm having the same problem actually.

ruczaj · Post by **ruczaj** » Sat Sep 13, 2008 12:44 am

Thanks to all for answers. Unfortunatelly, turning volume down also turns down midi signal.
I found out just another solution: I select synth part and then turn oscilator to "audio in + comb". I'm not sure if it is right option, but it seems to work

When "audio in + comb" is set, sound is muted but midi sequence still goes to Virus.
But really, EMX lacks in option which Yamaha Rm1x has got: "tone generator off" filter, which can send only midi without sound.
Thanks to You all, anyway.

shabudua · Post by **shabudua** » Sat Sep 13, 2008 1:06 am

ruczaj wrote:But really, EMX lacks in option which Yamaha Rm1x has got...

That's true. EMX is not known for having a huge number of features. But it does have a huge number of possible workarounds.

BatterieslikeBullets · Sat Sep 13, 2008 1:20 am

when i do that with my microkorg i usually just set that synth part to 0 then turn on the mk adjusting to the level i want

this works but once u touch the level knob on the emx you get f'ed XD

ruczaj · Post by **ruczaj** » Sat Sep 13, 2008 12:13 pm

BatterieslikeBullets wrote: this works but once u touch the level knob on the emx you get f'ed XD

Maybe try to use EMX internal midi filter? You can get there: pres "Midi" key - then Midi Utility (press SHIFT and key 12)- then scroll to "MidiUtil Filter"-then press key 12 again. You will got PCEN and "oooo" below. You can use scroll to change some "o" to "x". "x" means that some midi signals are down. So, if You leave just N (NOTE) open, none of the knob movements will affect Your microKorg. Your mk will get only notes from EMX.
I've got mk also, but I don't remember if it has its own midi filter, but I suppouse it has.
I hope it helps.
cheers

Ruso · Post by **Ruso** » Sat Sep 13, 2008 5:04 pm

ya but that would prevent all midi cc's from going out

zalo · Post by **zalo** » Sun Sep 14, 2008 6:56 am

just put the synth part to audio in+comb

and dont plug anything into the audio in

BigDill · Post by **BigDill** » Fri Nov 14, 2008 4:29 pm

Another way is to turn the cutoff and res all the way down on the emx. That was working for me last night and did not affect the cutoff and res on my radias or moog lp.

Using outputs 3&4 won't work for me, I need those for side-chaining the bass drum.

Ruso · Post by **Ruso** » Fri Nov 14, 2008 4:50 pm

do you ever use the volume knob for that part to control the radias?

travisthered · Post by **travisthered** » Sun Nov 16, 2008 7:33 pm

zalo wrote:just put the synth part to audio in+comb

and dont plug anything into the audio in

I also do this.

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